I honestly can’t tell if this one is just lemmy.world’s moderation being shit as usual, or if the fact that the stories getting removed are Russian is actually relevant.
Here are two stories of mine that have been removed from !nottheonion@lemmy.world for being “not onion-y”:
- Trump says Russia has shown willingness for peace by not taking over all of Ukraine, calls it ‘pretty big concession’
- Moscow hit by massive drone raid for second night ahead of Putin’s Victory Day parade
Stories that are fine, on the other hand?
- “Can ChatGPT experience joy or suffering? Does Gemini deserve human rights?” our tech columnist asks. “Many A.I. experts I know would say no, not yet, not even close. But I was intrigued.”
- ‘Trump 2028’ apparel on sale at the Trump Organization’s online store
- Trump tariffs: US president says foreign movies to be hit with 100% levies
I sort of suspect that what’s going on here is a combination of genuine stupidity on the part of the users (having trouble making the leap between “Victory Day” and “Moscow hit by massive drone raid”), plus passivity on the part of the mods (one possibility is that it got reported because of salty pro-Russian people, which the objectively not-oniony stories did not, and the mod just blindly obeys whatever reports say).
Regardless. Moderation on lemmy.world is a pile.
Clearly not oniony. Finding other posts that shouldn’t have been allowed can’t exonerate yours.
Not taking all of Ukraine sounds pretty oniony to me but drone raid leap doesn’t feel like it works that well.
Chatgpt title is fucking idiotic but not oniony. The last two are okay.
IDK, maybe it’s me. To me none of the stories in the second grouping are even vaguely onion-y but I guess there’s a certain amount of personal taste involved in it.
The chatGPT one is the onion-est of the lot! Openly acknowledging your topic is bollocks in the very headline is such an onion thing to do!
I’m on team YDI.
None of those articles are anything other than news. They look pretty normal-news to me. Onion stuff is supposed to be beyond the pale and ridiculous. Moscow getting hit by drones at this point is just news. That it coincides with something matters not a whit because there’s like a war going on.
Trump saying anything pro-Russia with regards to Ukraine isn’t news for the same reason. He’s actually already said a lot of similar stuff already. It’s just not unexpected, it’s not surprising.
I actually went and gathered a bunch of links about Trump saying pro-Russia crap for the past 6 months and then I was like, “Who wants to read this?” We all know it’s been happening. It’s just not hard to believe anymore.
I think they should probably stop allowing “Trump or the White House posts a photoshop of Trump as something ridiculous” posts because those are also no longer surprising, but Trump 2028 apparel was surprising at the time. I remember seeing that and showing it to some people in my life who didn’t believe me when I said that was coming. The “but I was intrigued” story belongs because that is also ridiculous, especially to anyone who knows anything about LLMs. I don’t think the foreign movies one should have stuck, but it’s for sure more oniony than “and there were more drone strikes.”
So, yeah, YDI for these. These are regular news stories now. I’m sorry, but that’s just the world we live in.
None of those articles are anything other than news. They look pretty normal-news to me
That is not ridiculous to you? :
Trump says Russia has shown willingness for peace by not taking over all of Ukraine, calls it ‘pretty big concession’
As indicated by the following paragraph, no. Which is a shame, but again, completely believable. He has said similar things in the past.
Things can be “believable” and “ridiculous” in the same time. Trump saying shit like this doesn’t make it “normal” 🙄
Seems like everything he says would qualify as ridiculous under those rules.
Firstly, some things he is saying are more ridiculous than others - that is one of these.
Secondly “not the onion” is precisely for that - for crazy shit which is really happening.
Yet again, you come on here to talk about how much you hate Lemmy.world. Yet you keep on posting shit to lemmy.world.
Dude, just stay away from it if you hate it that much.
I’m gonna say YDI because you know they don’t like you there, but you keep posting to try to stir up shit so you can come here and point fingers.
And PTB because they are known assholes.
Mod there is notoriously bad. Banned a bunch of us for calling out this obviously fake story: https://lemmy.ml/post/24524505
Sounds pretty legit to me. They posted a well-sourced story, asked for reasons why it was fake when people accused it of being fake, and a whole bunch of people came in the comments to yell unrelated wild claims including the bullshit about the “unicorn lair” story being Western propaganda.
I’m not sure if I would have banned people for doing all that, but I get it if someone wants to. I didn’t see anything in there that was a coherent argument that anything about the story was fake.
Here is a different photo of the Korean peninsula from space: https://imgur.com/a/PSIKyuK - imgur.artemislena.eu/a/PSIKyuK - rimgo.projectsegfau.lt/a/PSIKyuK - imgur.artemislena.eu/a/PSIKyuK - imgin.voidnet.tech/a/PSIKyuK
Here is Spain in darkness seen from space: https://universemagazine.com/en/blackout-in-spain-a-view-from-space/
You didn’t answer, but @Skua@kbin.earth just figured out what the image was from. It’s a photo of a page from a textbook showing an undated and heavily edited composite view of the earth, of unknown accuracy from unknown sources. Sterling.
I have 0 idea that this will change your mind, since you already know you’re right, and any contrary information is some kind of offense against you instead of just someone trying to talk sense and logic. All conversations are zero-sum. Loyalty is more important than truth. And so on. Clearly.
Have a good one
Here is a different photo of the Korean peninsula from space: https://imgur.com/a/PSIKyuK - imgur.artemislena.eu - rimgo.projectsegfau.lt - imgin.voidnet.tech
What is the source of this image? I have never seen images from space that have those solid patches of hundreds of square km that are just full-bright patches of uninterrupted brightness. Are you saying that all non-doctored images of North Korea show it as the same as South Korea, as it is in this one?
Also why is there a big specular spot on the left side of the image? What am I looking at here?
Here is Spain in darkness seen from space: https://universemagazine.com/en/blackout-in-spain-a-view-from-space/
Yes, during a blackout. What’s your point here?
Are you saying that North Korea was suffering a blackout when the images I showed were taken?
The image appears to be a cropped photo of pages 46 and 47 of Vishaan Chakrabarti’s A country of cities : a manifesto for an urban America. The image is captioned “Development on Planet Earth: Humans directly influence 83% of the earth’s land area” and does not appear to claim to be a satellite photo. By definition it can’t be an unedited satellite photo since it’s an equirectangular map of the entire world. The specular on the left is presumably due to it being a photo someone took of a physical copy of the book
https://archive.org/details/countryofcitiesm0000chak/page/46/mode/2up?q=development
I think frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml’s point is nothing but apologetics. I looked at the post they linked to, which helpfully highlights dog piling that was initiated by a couple pro-authoritarian communities:
cross-posted to:
According to the people doing the brigading, the article is only wrong because it was written by sources that are too Western for their nationalist liking.
You didn’t answer, but @Skua@kbin.earth just figured out what the image was from. It’s a photo of a page from a textbook showing an undated and heavily edited photo of a textbook. Sterling.
I have 0 idea that this will change your mind, since you already know you’re right, and any contrary information is some kind of offense against you instead of just someone trying to talk sense and logic. All conversations are zero-sum. Loyalty is more important than truth. And so on. Clearly.
Have a good one
I think you meant to reply to hobgoblin, not me
I absolutely did, sorry about that.
I mean pretty clearly lol. “Your images are doctored! Here’s an undoctored image!” What this random thing that for all I know is a film-camera picture of a fancy globe at the planetarium, that clearly has its lighting all jacked up, with no attribution and no explanation of even what the hell we’re looking at? “(silence)”
You can tell they don’t get much experience talking with dissenting opinions or trying to be persuasive to undecided people. Which is, of course, the point of how their communities get moderated the way that they do, to preserve that.
