Image description: Image shows batches 1, 2 and 3 sold out for the Ryzen 7 7840HS which costs $1,399.
For now both DIY and prebuild edition (all configurations) are in batch 4 which ships in late Q4 2023.
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Big-yet-thin, affordable Ryzen laptops with the option to add a real GPU to, that are just as upgradeable (component wise, if not market-availability wise) as a desktop?
Demand is high. Demand will remain high.
I can’t be the only one waiting to see more “real people” reviews of production units before plunking down money. I don’t upgrade laptops frequently and I don’t want to buy something buggy (i.e. Linux compatibility for wifi, ACPI, battery life, etc).
And while I’m waiting, I haven’t looked into a good answer to the USB-C dock story for the AMD versions. I see a lot of ambiguous statements about USB4 “being Thunderbolt” but not a lot of concrete statements on compatibility and capability.
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Previous products took much longer for batches to sell out. Even the AMD framework 13 laptops didn’t sell this fast and they were the #1 thing the community had been asking for for about a year.
We (sadly) can’t tell how many units are in a batch. But we can tell that demand is far exceeding their expectations.
At this point idk if it’s exceeding their expectations, they just literally don’t have enough money to invest into more production yet.
Hopefully that problem will become more and more alleviated as they sell more and more devices.
Their website crashed shortly after pre-orders went live. Could be a coincidence, could be high demand. Could also be crappy server infrastructure.
If you find the Linus tech tips video on Linus’s investment in the company, you might see why. Very interesting!
I thought it was insane that they take apart a fully built laptop to sell the diy version.
It’s way more work for Framework, but they charge less for the diy model.
I wonder if user comfort with modifying internals on the diy model creates more sales in the long run, because customers can visualize what they’d be doing when installing an upgrade.
I think the DIY model doesn’t include some components in the base price and that is why it is cheaper. Once you configure it to include other components it is a comparable price.
It seems the DIY option will only really save you money if you already have those components or if you buy those other components cheaply somewhere else.
I mean the easiest save on components is Ram and SSD storage. its far cheaper in the market then at asking price.
That definitely seemed the like the most jank part of their production line. You’d hope they come up with a fix for that. I wouldn’t be surprised if a significant portion of their sales are DIY, so getting that right has to be pretty important.
Yeah, how many batches have sold through doesn’t tell us anything unless we know how many are in each one.
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I’m guessing Linus’s investment is safe then :)
His investment is probably part of why these are such a hot commodity.
The media presence and advertising from LMG is worth a crazy amount. His followers are the exact target audience of this device and as long as he’s showing off what they’re up to I think they’ll continue to sell like this.
Spot on. I would have no idea Framework existed without LTT, and I likely would not have clicked into the article or comments on this thread, either.
Never heard of them before this but the name and sold out had me curious so I looked them up. If I was in the market for laptop this would for sure be my top choice. I greatly prefer my desktop and anything I can’t do there I just do on my phone so everytime I get the itch for a laptop I regret buying it because it ends up just sitting.
And we as tech enthusiasts will also recommend them to others, for obvious reasons.
I currently own a macbook and i am scared of the day thered any issues with it
I’m really happy they’re seeing good demand. Fully upgradable laptops have been a dream of mine for years and I’ve been thinking when it’s time for me to replace mine, the Framework would be at the top of my list.
My only hesitation points when I first heard about the laptop was whether the company would survive long enough to make upgrades/accessories and whether the main board upgrades would actually work. The concept was, as you say, a dream.
Both of those concerns have faded away for me, my next laptop is pretty much 100% going to be a framework. Just need to stop spending money on dumb stuff so I can afford it…
Hell yeah Framework deserves all the goodness coming their way. I have an ASUS that’s serving me well for now, but I think when I go to replace it next year, they’re the ones I’m going to. Hopefully by then, they have AMD boards in the smaller sizes.
I believe Ryzen 7000 boards are already available for preorder in the 13 inch. Preorders are supposed to ship starting late 2023, so you should be all good by next year.
Oh hey that’s great news. Thanks for the update. I hadn’t seen any news about that recently, though admittedly I haven’t been looking.
Batches 4 and 5 are also sold out by now.
Meanwhile, batches 8 and 9 have been added to the list. Looks like they did not anticipate this kind of success.
waits excitedly for Framework to ship in my region
It’s fine, my current laptop has a couple of years life left in it. They’ll open up orders by then right? Right?
To find the answer , stay tune we’ll be right after this commercial break 📺.
( Later on, story was told that they never returned… )
How many is a “batch” I wonder?
5
Lol guessing it’s a tiny bit more than 5.
I’m glad they’re doing well, sadly Framework isn’t available in my country, otherwise I’d consider them for my next laptop.
I want one so fucking badly, but I can’t really justify the cost. But I could… Just… Get one anyway. Somebody help me.
Also, when will they be delivered? Not that quickly I suppose? Edit: I can’t read apparently.
Great to see this news about a company focused on repairability and sustainability .
I’ve been curious about these framework laptops for a while now. They seem pretty rad, but I really only compute on desktop, have a work provided laptop that could never be this, and the only other computer I need in my life is a Mac for app development, which this can’t fulfill. If I ever need a non-Mac laptop for personal use, framework would be the thing though.
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Interesting, never seen something like this. What’s the benefit using these?
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I love that I got to experience the computer revolution from (nearly) the start to its current state, but damn, I really do resent some of the bad habits I’ve picked up due to technical limitations that existed when I got started. I think ortho looks just so much better and more comfortable, but the typewriter layout is firmly engrained in my muscle memory…
They have ergonomic QWERTY keyboards for decades now actually. I’m still rocking my Microsoft ergonomic keyboard from years back.
The ergonomic keyboards I’ve seen still had offset keyboard rows, rather than the ortholinear setup shown in the tweet linked above. It’s the uniform spacing and grid layout that I’ve never seen before (not to say that means its new; just new to me!).
Better, more accurate touch typing essentially.
Source please.
There is none. There isn’t a single piece of research that has found ortho to be superior in any way. It’s not faster, it’s not more accurate, it’s not more ergonomic. It is for hipsters that want to be different. You’re certainly entitled to like ortho keyboards. But you should not lie about benefits.
I think a “better… for me” is sufficient. Input devices are so personal, almost every statement about them should end in “for me”.
Track points are so much better… for me.
Macbook touchpads are obviously superior… for me.
Mechanical keyboards have such a better tactile feel… for me.
Ad nausem for trackballs, Bluetooth devices, wired devices, in-ear/over-ear/open/closed headphones.
Man, didn’t expect to get my ass reamed for such a simple opinion lol. Personally speaking I feel like I’m more accurate and I have a better time finding where the keys are when touch typing.
How about you put up some source that backs up your opinion?
I really hope they are successful, I would get one too if I didnt need a new laptop.
Still have my trusty Lenovo X1 Carbon 5th Gen. Once this laptop dies or my system requiments change, I will get a Framework system.
If it’s still around by then.
The problem is we all love this kind of user supported laptop, but we never buy it soon enough and in enough quantity for the independent company to stay viable. We all individually always have some reason why we don’t buy as soon as they come out.
I hope I’m wrong, but this is what I’ve seen in the past with other laptops from independent companies.
It probably will. That’s not their first try, it’s like the 3rd iteration and they still support the original one.
You can also buy MiniPCs from bee-link or others with same AMD or others powerful ones for cheap, if you don’t absolutely need a laptop
You could also buy soup from the grocery store if you’re hungry.
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Fuck, I’m just trying to buy clothes.
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Now they’re up to Batch 6 (first Q1 batch!)
I was waiting for the options to be available. I guess it sold out fast. Now I would have to wait until early 2024. However, I need a laptop now. I guess I’ll have to buy something else and upgrade to framework when that upgrade breaks.
