• SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Do you get a return on investment directly in merely owning a car? No, of course not. People still buy cars. (To avoid confusion: cars open other economic opportunities, but just sitting on a car by itself is not an investment.)

    On the other hand, if cars did become an investment, people would hoard cars and they would be less affordable for people who actually use cars productively. High real estate prices are similarly hurting the economy.

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      1 year ago

      Cars and homes are two totally different things. Why even compare the two?

      Also, some people do buy cars to resell at a profit. The vintage and classic car industry is one example of that.

      Houses are an investment because they sit on land that increases in value over time. Some people don’t even profit from the sale of their house, but from the sale of the land.

      What is the argument, then?

      Stats Canada makes it clear that rental housing is affordable for those making less than the median income (25% of expenses spent on housing), and that most mortgage holders are not spending more than 30% of their household income on housing.

      By definition, it’s all affordable if you aren’t making well below the median income for an individual (which is $32,000 after tax).

      Can we use more low-cost housing? Absolutely.

      I’ve never argued against that, but I think people need to understand the definition of affordable housing and what that actually means.

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        1 year ago

        When you profit off of merely sitting on land, you are essentially leaching off of society. Economists call this “economic rent”, which is a kind of theft where a person gains from the productive activity of others, without producing anything of value themselves. This is why the nickname for a land tax is “the perfect tax”. You didn’t “produce” anything from the increase in real estate price. Like a car, your house structure itself is actually a depreciating asset and is worth less every year.

        This is different from a productive investment like a share in a company, because a company can use that money to invest in useful capital, like factories or workers. This is why Canada’s obsession with real estate “investment” is causing the economy to contract in terms of GDP-per-capita.

        Your last few paragraphs denying that there is a housing affordability crisis in Canada is completely and ridiculously outside the mainstream. Literally no expert agrees with you.