• dubious@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      you can point out their hypocrisy, it doesn’t matter. you can make fun of them all you want, it doesn’t matter. you can debate their ideas, it doesn’t matter.

      if you want to save the world, there’s really only one solution.

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        I agree and disagree with that. If you don’t point it out and tell them (and others) that they’re wrong, then they go on doing it with zero pushback and it eventually becomes the truth.

        I completely understand what you’re saying, and it’s exhausting they just continue to shout over everyone, but nothing changes if no one does anything.

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          2 months ago

          you probably just got here like most lemmyists, but we’ve been pointing out the flaws in their ideology since the internet was birthed. no one’s listening. time for real solutions.

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            “you’ve been here for over a year so you couldn’t possibly understand politics from the past four decades, or human nature”

            Wut

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                then go for it high speed, stop beating around the bush and waiting for someone to do whatever you think is obvious and get to work.

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                  I’m just the propaganda arm of the revolution. My only goal is to make people realize that our current methods of beating the right aren’t working. It will take a significant portion of the population to truly fix anything (even winning elections doesn’t make them go away, and they will always be a roadblock to meaningful change). I’m not even really advocating for anything as much as I am trying to make you all understand that the problem is never solved until it’s solved once and for all. Furthermore, we will never be able to reach our utopian future as long as there are a significant number of us trying to go backwards. Humanity has endured so much to get to the point that it’s long time goals are within reach. Some generation of us deserves to reap the rewards. Will it be your children, or will another century have to be one of suffering? Can we afford to endure another century of this dystopia? Can the world even survive it?

                  This isn’t edgelord shit. This is just facing the reality that we have no choice but to be good stewards. The alternative dooms so much life on this planet.

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                    This isn’t edgelord shit.

                    this is completely the most edgelord shit paragraph I’ve ever read. to cap it with that <lolololol>

                    the fucking revolution

                    oh my god

                    what an amazing troll account

                    5/5 stars, that’s satire

                    want to post what you wrote here so you can’t edit it:

                    I’m just the propaganda arm of the revolution. My only goal is to make people realize that our current methods of beating the right aren’t working. It will take a significant portion of the population to truly fix anything (even winning elections doesn’t make them go away, and they will always be a roadblock to meaningful change). I’m not even really advocating for anything as much as I am trying to make you all understand that the problem is never solved until it’s solved once and for all. Furthermore, we will never be able to reach our utopian future as long as there are a significant number of us trying to go backwards. Humanity has endured so much to get to the point that it’s long time goals are within reach. Some generation of us deserves to reap the rewards. Will it be your children, or will another century have to be one of suffering? Can we afford to endure another century of this dystopia? Can the world even survive it?

                    This isn’t edgelord shit. This is just facing the reality that we have no choice but to be good stewards. The alternative dooms so much life on this planet.

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        you can point out their hypocrisy, it doesn’t matter.

        It matters quite a bit when you’re talking about Presidential politics wrt an ongoing genocide.

        Jill’s condemned Putin, which is what everyone wanted her to do. But we’re not sending Putin our highest end military equipment for the purpose of killing Ukrainians now are we?

        Meanwhile, Hasan is bending over backwards to shield Biden and Netanyahu from accusations of a genocide we are facilitating.

        And that’s his point. He’s trying to get Jill to shut up about Gaza, because it’s the rock Kamala is poised to trip over in November. If she loses the Muslim vote in swing states, she’s cooked.

        Hasan needs Jill to recant her position on Israel in order to turn that protest vote against her. And you’re playing into that delusion, because you’re terrified she might actually manage to draw a Muslim protest vote in sufficient quantities to cost Democrats the election.

        That’s the only reason anyone on her gives a shit about the Green Party.

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          Im confused as to why this comment is on this post, since this post concerns not a single thing you put in your comment. Commenting screeds like this in posts completely unrelated to what you’re going on about just gets you down voted and ignored, so nobody will see your comments, or take them seriously when they are actually relevant to the post you’re commenting upon.

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          I read that, he starts his question asking if she thinks Netanyahu is a war criminal by saying that he believes he is. You are lying. He did not defend Netanyahu, he did ask why she thought he was one, but that wasn’t in a rhetorical sense, like he was denying it, but he wanted to know why she could say "is a war criminal " with no caveat on one, but not the other. He starts by calling him a war criminal in that interview.