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- politics@lemmy.world
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- politics@lemmy.world
A closed-door meeting for House Democrats this week included a gripe-fest directed at liberal grassroots organizations, sources tell Axios.
A closed-door meeting for House Democrats this week included a gripe-fest directed at liberal grassroots organizations, sources tell Axios.
Oh man, you just deleted the abstractum of hierarchies! Amazing job!
So when the party has a president there’s leadership, and when there’s no president, there are no leaders, amazing! Heisenberg’s leadership!
Anyway, here is an excerpt copied from The Charter and By Laws of the Democratic Party of The United States:
ARTICLE THREE
Democratic National Committee
Section 1.
The Democratic National Committee shall have general responsibility for the affairs of the Democratic Party between National Conventions, subject to the provisions of this Charter and to the resolutions or other actions of the National Convention.
This responsibility shall include, but not be limited to:
(a) issuing the Call to the National Convention; (b) conducting the Party’s Presidential campaign; © filling vacancies in the nominations for the office of President and Vice President; (d) formulating and disseminating statements of Party policy; (e) providing for the election or appointment of a Chairperson, five Vice Chairpersons, one of whom shall be the President of the Association of State Democratic Committees and one of whom shall be the Vice Chairperson for Civic Engagement and Voter Participation, a Treasurer, a Secretary, and a National Finance Chair, who, with the exception of the Chairperson, shall be as equally divided as practicable according to gender at the quadrennial election, as defined in the Democratic National Committee Charter, Article Nine, Section 16, and for the filling of vacancies that occur outside of the regularly scheduled elections of the President of the Association of State Democratic Committees, all in accordance with Rules of Procedure adopted by the Democratic National Committee; and other appropriate officers who shall be as equally divided as practicable according to gender; and (f) all other actions necessary or appropriate in order to carry out the provisions of this Charter and the objectives of the Democratic Party.
Nowhere in there does it say anything at all about bossing around Senators and congressmen. You just proved everything I told you to be true.
100% correct. There is no clear party leader when there is no president. The leaders of the House Democratic Caucus and Senate Democratic Caucus are each far more powerful than the DNC chairman. The House leader cannot boss the Senate leader. The Senate leader cannot boss the house leader. And neither of those 2 leaders cares the slightest shit what the chairman of the DNC thinks. Do you even know who that person is? Because I don’t. He/She is not important enough for anybody to even know what their name is. Jeff Jeffries is the House Leader. Chuck Schumer is the Senate Leader. Nobody knows or gives a fuck who the DNC leader is.
Did you also think that the RNC is the head of the Republican Party? That’s not the slightest bit true. Republicans aren’t united because of “the RNC”. The RNC is a joke. They are united because the billionaires control the entire party and calls the shots on everything they do.
So first you said they only handle primaries. Nowhere did I even see the word primary, but the list of responsibilities went far beyond handling elections. You ignored section D entirely, which I posit is a leadership role. You have no understanding that people can function as leaders and exhibit leadership skills regardless of official hierarchies, titles, and positions.
And finally, you are making my point for me. The party has laughable unity and leadership. If the DNC is responsible for the candidates that comprise the party, why shouldn’t I blame them for building a headless party?
Did you not know that “issuing the Call to the National Convention” is the final result of the primary?
Did you not know that “filling vacancies in the nominations for the office of President and Vice President” would only happen if there was some problem after the primary?
Did you not know that “providing for the election or appointment of a Chairperson, five Vice Chairpersons…” all has to do with the internal private organization of the DNC and nothing at all to do with the US congress?
Did you not know that “formulating and disseminating statements of Party policy” refers to the party platform of the presidential elections and are made right before the national convention and then pretty much ignored for the next 4 years and are never used by congressmen and senators to guide their votes? I doubt that any congressmen who is not a DNC member could quote a single sentence in the party platform.
A leadership role of a private organization that holds a big event every 4 years. It is not a government leadership role for people who are work for the government, like congressmen and senators.
They are NOT responsible for the candidates that comprise the party. The VOTERS and candidate themselves are 100% responsible for that. Those same voters are ALSO responsible for electing the membership of the DNC. That is exactly why congressmen and senators couldn’t care less what anybody who works at the DNC thinks about anything. It’s because congressmen and senators are responsible for their own election and reelections, not the DNC.
Why would you even want a party where one guy, instead of millions of voters, decide who the candidates are? Or even way worse than that, how they vote?
You have no understanding the congressmen and senators already have completely different leaders and organizations who have infinitely more power than anybody at “the DNC”. A simple way to understand reality is to know that nobody who gets a government paycheck cares about what anybody at the DNC wants.
The whole reason why I push back against the trend of using “The DNC” as a magical shorthand for “whichever Dem I don’t like at the moment”, is become I was worried that eventually somebody would be foolish enough to think the DNC was some super powerful monolithic static group who is like an actual person. So far you are the only person I’ve found in that category. Everyone else simply admits they were falsely using “The DNC” to mean some random guy they didn’t like.