• Geodad@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    A better title would be “Apple helps the US government bypass the 4th amendment”.

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      Yeah we don’t have enough American news, we should start reframing other countries’ news into how it affects America

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        It affects certain people from America. I have a relative who is directly affected by this.

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        The UK is part of 5 Eyes. They swap info on citizens among members. No warrants, no constitutional protections. All they have to do is ask MI5 for info on Americans with dual citizenship.

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          That stretch of logic sounds an awful lot, like a post-hoc justification after learning it wasn’t about the US. But ok

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            One of my in-laws has dual England/US citizenship. They divide their time between the two countries. It directly effects them.

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              I don’t doubt that. But its still a large stretch, to think the UK passed a law applying to all UK citizens, specifically to give the US access to a few thousand dual citizens.

              I’m thinking LoudWaterHombre was right. You simply have an extremely US centric mindset.

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                Apple is a US based company. For them to just roll over sets a bad precedent, especially for our fascists who are now running the show here.

                What’s to stop the US government from going after the same services here? What’s about Tor or VPN services?

                The authoritarians will smell blood in the water after this. Since the big player just gave up, who will stand in their way?

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                  12 hours ago

                  Now you’re moving the goal post, and pointing to a slippery slope, still trying to justify your original misunderstanding. It’s alright to be wrong sometimes.

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                    9 hours ago

                    I hope I am wrong, but we’re now essentially being run by an unelected oligarch. Authoritarian regimes like the US will see it and demand the same for here.

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              No, the only thing I wish would center around the US is an asteroid. I absolutely hate it here, but I don’t have the means to leave.

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                Hey Buddy, this article is about UK and you argue for it to be about the US. Clearly the UK did not pass a law to bend over for your orange overlord.

                This whole discussion is bonkers.

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                  9 hours ago

                  My government is now basically a fascist regime. Musk is going to see this and demand that Apple do the same.

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        No, but they’re part of 5 Eyes. The US government can ask MI5 to spy on US citizens, which gets around 4th amendment protections.

        This will allow them to spy on any US citizens with dual citizenship.

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            Not if they are in the UK? Idk, that’s probably a weird edge case, but unless we’re all free, nobody is.