You will be no better than the people you’ll fight against. I’ve seen it happen on every pro-men subreddit, and if this place isn’t aggressively moderated to dispel hopelessness, negativity, and prejudice, it’ll just turn into hate.

Incel, mens-rights activist, red-pill, black-pill, MGTOW, etc. don’t let the haters join otherwise this community will end up just like the aforementioned.

Egalitarian from a male perspective is what we should be, not pro-male (I say male because of sex and gender).

Be excellent to each other.

  • Anamana@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    Where is the quote by Mary P. Koss? And how would the quote of one presumably feminist author provide evidence for a systematic issue?

    All I see is an article discussing how the CDC’s definition of rape should be rethought as it might lead to misinterpretation.

    Also, what do you mean by rape is not a gendered crime? No matter the definition, the numbers from NISVS show more men are raping women, than women raping men… by a large margin. Even when accounting for ‘made to penetrate’ to be rape. And there’s no country on earth were this statistic will be reversed.

    • a-man-from-earth@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      Where is the quote by Mary P. Koss?

      It’s easy to find on her Wikipedia page:

      On the issue of male victims of rape, Koss has written: “Although consideration of male victims is within the scope of the legal statutes, it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman.” (Koss 1993 pp 206–207). Elsewhere, she has argued that it is impossible for a woman to rape a man: “How would [a man being raped by a woman] happen… how would that happen by force or threat of force or when the victim is unable to consent? How does that happen?”, adding that she would describe this as “unwanted contact”.

      And how would the quote of one presumably feminist author provide evidence for a systematic issue?

      Because her work and her definitions are used by the APA, the CDC, the US Department of Justice, and the WHO.

      Also, what do you mean by rape is not a gendered crime?

      Did you gloss over this part of the article in Time?

      And now the real surprise: when asked about experiences in the last 12 months, men reported being “made to penetrate”—either by physical force or due to intoxication—at virtually the same rates as women reported rape (both 1.1 percent in 2010, and 1.7 and 1.6 respectively in 2011).

      In other words, if being made to penetrate someone was counted as rape—and why shouldn’t it be?—then the headlines could have focused on a truly sensational CDC finding: that women rape men as often as men rape women.

      Hidden in the statistics is the finding that women rape men as often as men rape women.

      Let’s stop hiding male victims.