Though the exact details of the situation have not been confirmed, community infighting seems to have spilled out in a breach of the notorious image board.
All rights are privileges, if we’re going to be pedantic. This is evidenced by the fact that they can be taken away. Society tends to operate on an unspoken, collective agreement that certain rights should never be violated, but if they were actually intrinsic, we wouldn’t have to fight tooth and nail for them.
I’m a moral relativist, so if someone is happy to abuse their right to privacy to harm others or otherwise take their rights away, especially the right to privacy, I don’t feel any compunction to draw a hard line and say that the harmful person deserves to keep those rights in spite of their actions.
They’re regularly revoked in all developed countries, mainly as the result of criminal proceedings. Unless you think that prisoners are afforded the same rights as the rest of us?
And the Enlightenment notion that there are inalienable rights endowed by the Creator is about as quaint as the idea that there’s a Creator. Rights are ideals that must be continually fought for and expanded, not the gift of a beneficent Alpha Male in the Sky
Exactly.
There is no such thing as rights in that context as we have seen governments take them and be force to relinquish them throughout history. Everything can be taken or revoked.
Inalienable rights are a pipe dream of idealistic, naive people who have never lived in the real world where these so-called Rights had be fought or died for.
Just look at the current state of the the UK, their PM proudly stated that 400 were arrested for posting shit online. WTF? In Germany a man was charged for calling a fat, obese politician ‘fat.’ The UK wants to become a nanny state, for your protection, you see. Same with Germany and others. They are literally and slowly coping the CCP police state model.
In the USA, in some States is now literally Illegal to NOT do business with Israel.
But you want to not do business with Canada or Mexico, then go right ahead. Nobody cares. Gee, I wonder who is funding these policians, AIPAC? Yes.
“Live and let live” obviously doesn’t work. 4chan has done so much damage to the world that I wouldn’t mind seeing their big players in gallows in the town square.
The way you’re describing it, it sounds more like you believe privacy is a privilege, not a right.
All rights are privileges, if we’re going to be pedantic. This is evidenced by the fact that they can be taken away. Society tends to operate on an unspoken, collective agreement that certain rights should never be violated, but if they were actually intrinsic, we wouldn’t have to fight tooth and nail for them.
I’m a moral relativist, so if someone is happy to abuse their right to privacy to harm others or otherwise take their rights away, especially the right to privacy, I don’t feel any compunction to draw a hard line and say that the harmful person deserves to keep those rights in spite of their actions.
aka the golden rule
You mean, people who operate a platform where people’s privacy constantly gets violated should have a right to their own privacy?
I dunno. I understand your point, but @Telorand@reddthat.com is also kind of right.
Rights are unchangeable based on circumstances. They can never be revoked.
Privlivges can be.
Absolutely false.
They’re regularly revoked in all developed countries, mainly as the result of criminal proceedings. Unless you think that prisoners are afforded the same rights as the rest of us?
And the Enlightenment notion that there are inalienable rights endowed by the Creator is about as quaint as the idea that there’s a Creator. Rights are ideals that must be continually fought for and expanded, not the gift of a beneficent Alpha Male in the Sky
Exactly. There is no such thing as rights in that context as we have seen governments take them and be force to relinquish them throughout history. Everything can be taken or revoked.
Inalienable rights are a pipe dream of idealistic, naive people who have never lived in the real world where these so-called Rights had be fought or died for.
Just look at the current state of the the UK, their PM proudly stated that 400 were arrested for posting shit online. WTF? In Germany a man was charged for calling a fat, obese politician ‘fat.’ The UK wants to become a nanny state, for your protection, you see. Same with Germany and others. They are literally and slowly coping the CCP police state model.
In the USA, in some States is now literally Illegal to NOT do business with Israel. But you want to not do business with Canada or Mexico, then go right ahead. Nobody cares. Gee, I wonder who is funding these policians, AIPAC? Yes.
“Live and let live” obviously doesn’t work. 4chan has done so much damage to the world that I wouldn’t mind seeing their big players in gallows in the town square.
lots of rights get modified, curtailed, or eliminated by the larger society based on misuse or misbehavior or other transgressions.
(or positions of power, etc…)
Or sometimes, just an authoritarian government.