before i made an account, i reached out to the chief admin of lemmy.dbzer0.com

i was recently banned during a discussion on the validity of a claim regarding the consensus about the safety of a vegan diet:

and, if you bother to go find that discussion, you’ll find that, in fact, my interlocutor did become incivil. i did report that. and somehow, my discussion and the subsequent report were the basis of a ban.

it was less than 2 hours. it’s almost not worth discussing.

but given my pre-application discussion, i felt strongly that my conduct is within the bounds of the acceptable use of the instance. so if my conduct is not within the acceptable use, that means i basically cant use my account(s) as i planned and under the terms which i agreed.

db0 has said he doesn’t want to be the benevolent dictator for life, and has specifically both recused himself from ruling on my conduct and encouraged me to post here and in !div0_governance@lemmy.dbzer0.com (though i’m still holding off on that for now).

so, did i deserve it? power tripping bastard? what do you think?

  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    21 days ago

    You gave zero information to go off of but judging from what I saw from the comments, YDI.

    You said about the other person:

    You really need to take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you’re trying so hard to lie about this.

    But you were dead wrong about the point being discussed, you kept insisting that their evidence was outdated when they were referring evidence beyond the paper you were talking about. If anything, the other person was remarkably patient with you, and if you were decent you’d own up to having egg on your face and apologize to them. Instead, you reported them for correctly calling out your BS, and are now here whining about a two hour ban.

    Personally, I find your whole thing of staying within the letter of “civility” while going “I’m not touching you” and talking down to everyone incredibly annoying, worse than if you just told people to go fuck themselves. If it were up to me I’d issue a permaban, but I don’t think we have an abbreviation here for “the mods didn’t go far enough.”

    • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      17 days ago

      Personally, I find your whole thing of staying within the letter of “civility” while going “I’m not touching you” and talking down to everyone incredibly annoying, worse than if you just told people to go fuck themselves.

      Man, user tags are so fucking helpful. I already had OP tagged with “Top-Tier Sealion” in reference to this webcomic:

      Sealioning is a specific type of trolling, where the user baits their target into a bad faith argument, under the guise of civility. Then when their target gets tired of answering their endless demands for proof and sources, and pops off, the Sealion plays the victim and claims that they were remaining civil while the target was the one who got angry. Basically, “just asking questions” puts all of the burden for the argument on the target. So the target is pressed into spending a lot of time and effort answering, only for the Sealion to move the goalposts and demand more proof.

      Before I even read the post, I knew it was going to be some sort of “I was banned but I was just asking questions and was civil the whole time” complaint. Sealioning is such a common method of trolling that there’s even a Wikipedia page about it. The sad part is that OP seems to genuinely believe that they’re not trolling, and sees their Sealioning as justified.