NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh suffered a resounding defeat on election night, losing his own seat, his party reduced to a single-digit seat count.

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    19 hours ago

    first past the post will kill you as easily as it killed Estats Unis

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    18 hours ago

    I like Singh but the results speaks for itself. There is no chance of NPD growing under him despite him doing a great job in my opinion. I am glad that he thought about people before the party and himself

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      20 hours ago

      I feel sad for the guy because he really did care and worked hard. He was a good dude.

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        19 hours ago

        He had his time and he did delivered some good things, but it’s defintely time for new ideas and more charismatic leaders. He was the most unpopular leader in this election cycle.

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          18 hours ago

          I agree generally agree with you but charisma is so subjective. A lot of people think that trump is charismatic but to me he isn’t t all. Many think Carney is not charismatic but he is to me.

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          12 hours ago

          Jagmeet was plenty charismatic; and earnest, too. But while I worried about his focus, really he bounced off a glass ceiling; and then found slagging an ally in campaign ads was detrimental to both. (and let’s talk about how uncharacteristic THAT was)

          But he presented well as someone with decent motivations, and his causes were generally on the side of regular Canadians, as you’d expect from the oranges. He had his best party and just misstepped while puppet-mastering Justin.

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      19 hours ago

      While I agree that change is necessary, I feel like NDP as a whole needs to change strategy. It’s like every single promise they make is about throwing shade on another party, or saying they will fix something liberals did, but rarely any actual constructive or original ideas. They need to come up with their own identity instead of basing it on the opposite of another.

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        10 hours ago

        I mostly agree with agenda of the NDP and also with Singh but I also noticed that he started bashing the liberals more than usual in the last couple of month. I live in Manitoba and hear often official ads from the Conservative party in radio about things they blame on Trudeau. In my opinion this needs to stop, this is not professional.

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        12 hours ago

        rarely any actual constructive or original ideas

        My mom’s getting some dental work, thanks to his original idea.

        They need to come up with their own identity

        They HAVE an identity: small-biz heroes, middle-class champions, lift-all-boats tide. This has been their identity for decades.

        instead of basing it on the opposite of another.

        You confusing the orange with the blue?

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        18 hours ago

        I agree that bashing other parties is useless but everybody does it. For weird reason the critisism only is given to NPD.

        There is no such thing as original ideas in politics. Every ideas was proposed in other elections over the world.

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    17 hours ago

    I loved him, but he tossed Jessica Wetz under the bus and the next day, he was posting thirst traps on TikTok.

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    19 hours ago

    Thanks for finally doing the right thing, Jagmeet! It only took your complete and utter defeat and losing official party status… but I guess it’s better late than never. (Please elect a socialist leader now.)

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    19 hours ago

    On Jan 1st, the 3 major canada-wide parties were:

    • Liberal, headed by Justin Trudeau out of Papineau
    • Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre out of Carleton
    • NDP headed by Jagmeet Singh out of Burnaby South

    On May 1st the 3 major parties will be:

    • Liberal, headed by Mark Carney out of Nepean
    • Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre(?) out of ?
    • NDP headed by ? out of ?
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        They’re not an “official party”, but they still got 6% of the vote. But, because of FPTP they only got 2% of the seats. Bloc Quebecois got 6.4% of the vote and 6.7% of the seats. There are still a lot of people out there who would want to vote NDP, but who voted Liberal to achieve “anybody but Conservative”. The plan worked, but I think they’d like some electoral reform.

        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4jd39g8y1o

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          18 hours ago

          I completely agree to be clear.

          But “major party” means something in election parlance, and unfortunately because of all the required strategic voting, it means NDP won’t be at the next debate.

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            all the required strategic voting,

            Much of BC was lost through three-way ties that the blues won by a nose. It seems that, for some ridings, strategy wasn’t strong enough.

            If two Oranges ‘cross’ to Red to give Mark a mandate, can they ‘cross’ back before the next election?

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              11 hours ago

              Yeah I hope the fact that both the NDP and the LPC got screwed in BC on so many ridings causes their hopeful coalition government to actually implement voting reform this time.

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        19 hours ago

        That’s why I carefully worded it “canada-wide parties”. If it were just big parties by vote, you’d definitely be right. In fact, Bloc is the only big party that came through the last few months with their leader intact.

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      19 hours ago

      Pierre Poilievre likely to stay as party leader since he’s very popular with the base. Unless someone like Doug Ford decides to fight him for the position.

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        Pierre is very not popular - when Trudeau quit he had a higher approval rating than Pierre. People this time were voting for the party, not for Pierre.

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          19 hours ago

          He’s not popular overall, but he’s very popular with the conversative base.