I’m going to make my own Boomer-esque gender observation here: people generally don’t like having the fact that they conform to a stereotype about their sex pointed out. This woman would probably not be laughing if she thought she fit the stereotype, and especially not if she had ever made herself vulnerable by explicitly admitting that.
Oh man. Few things piss my wife off more than suggesting her irrational behavior could be due to PMS. She gets it really bad, and she’s allowed to say that, but I’m not.
The stereotype isn’t that only women ever want sympathy, but rather that women generally want sympathy (rather than help) a lot more than men do, especially in situations where help appears to be fairly straightforward.
I’m not saying this is unique to their actual gender/gender roles. I’ve seen it play out across the LGBT/gender spectrum with folks on all sides of it. The post is a bit sloppy but the core thing - about figuring out if someone needs validation vs. advice vs. just someone to vent to a bit - is very real and what’s kind of funny is you can tell this guy had to have that conversation. Good on him for following through
This behavior isn’t exclusive to one sex, but I think it is stereotypically feminine. I (a heterosexual man) usually hear about it when heterosexual men give each other advice, and it’s presented as an irrational thing many women do which the men should learn to accommodate.
Sometimes the problem solving men jump to is annoying as shit. Like, I’m a man, and I want to complain about my cluster headaches. No I don’t need you to be the 20th person to tell me I just need to stay hydrated. No I would not like to hear your methods for dealing with migraines that are probably not real migraines. What I get are not migraines. They’re called suicide headaches for a reason.
Yes I agree with that. Are we talking about society or we talking about how I am talking about this subject? I feel like we keep vacillating between the two here
The fact that the stereotype exists (and both the man and the woman presumably know that it does) makes me perceive the comment in the OP as mocking or patronizing. The man’s intent could be to offend or perhaps to imply “I’m glad you don’t actually expect treatment like this,” but even that would offend many women. I don’t understand why you or the woman in the OP think it was said in good faith, because it’s something I would say myself only if I wanted to hurt the feelings of the woman I was speaking to so much that I was willing to sound sexist.
I’m going to make my own Boomer-esque gender observation here: people generally don’t like having the fact that they conform to a stereotype about their sex pointed out. This woman would probably not be laughing if she thought she fit the stereotype, and especially not if she had ever made herself vulnerable by explicitly admitting that.
Oh man. Few things piss my wife off more than suggesting her irrational behavior could be due to PMS. She gets it really bad, and she’s allowed to say that, but I’m not.
What is the stereotype? Men should be allowed to have a feelings stage about stuff that goes wrong.
The stereotype isn’t that only women ever want sympathy, but rather that women generally want sympathy (rather than help) a lot more than men do, especially in situations where help appears to be fairly straightforward.
I’m not saying this is unique to their actual gender/gender roles. I’ve seen it play out across the LGBT/gender spectrum with folks on all sides of it. The post is a bit sloppy but the core thing - about figuring out if someone needs validation vs. advice vs. just someone to vent to a bit - is very real and what’s kind of funny is you can tell this guy had to have that conversation. Good on him for following through
This behavior isn’t exclusive to one sex, but I think it is stereotypically feminine. I (a heterosexual man) usually hear about it when heterosexual men give each other advice, and it’s presented as an irrational thing many women do which the men should learn to accommodate.
Sometimes the problem solving men jump to is annoying as shit. Like, I’m a man, and I want to complain about my cluster headaches. No I don’t need you to be the 20th person to tell me I just need to stay hydrated. No I would not like to hear your methods for dealing with migraines that are probably not real migraines. What I get are not migraines. They’re called suicide headaches for a reason.
Yes I agree with that. Are we talking about society or we talking about how I am talking about this subject? I feel like we keep vacillating between the two here
The fact that the stereotype exists (and both the man and the woman presumably know that it does) makes me perceive the comment in the OP as mocking or patronizing. The man’s intent could be to offend or perhaps to imply “I’m glad you don’t actually expect treatment like this,” but even that would offend many women. I don’t understand why you or the woman in the OP think it was said in good faith, because it’s something I would say myself only if I wanted to hurt the feelings of the woman I was speaking to so much that I was willing to sound sexist.
Fair concern for sure
Are we sure she is laughing about this and not trying to “partner shame” him?