Authors using a new tool to search a list of 183,000 books used to train AI are furious to find their works on the list.

  • adriaan@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    That would be a much better comparison if it was artificial intelligence, but these are just reinforcement learning models. They do not get inspired.

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      just reinforcement learning models

      …like the naturally occuring neural networks are.

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        1 year ago

        The brain does not work the way you think… (I work in the field, bio-informatics). What you call “neural networks” come from an early misunderstanding of how the brain stores information. It’s a LOT more complicated and frankly, barely understood.

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        1 year ago

        Tell you what, you get a landmark legal decision classifying LLM as people and then we’ll talk.

        Until then it’s software being fed content in a way not permitted by its license i.e. the makers of that software committing copyright infringement.

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            1 year ago

            Using it to (create a tool to) create derivatives of the work on a massive scale.

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              An AI model is not a derivative work. It does not contain the copyrighted expression, just information about the copyrighted expression.

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              Wikipedia: In copyright law, a derivative work is an expressive creation that includes major copyrightable elements of a first, previously created original work.

              I think you may be off a bit on what a derivative work is. I don’t see LLMs spouting out major copyrightable elements of books. They can give a summary sure, but Cliff Notes would like to have a word if you think that’s copyright infringement.

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                1 year ago

                Would you be okay with applying that argument for any crime?

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                  I would be, and I don’t understand why you think this would be a problem. I wouldn’t want the government to be preventing activities that there weren’t any actual laws prohibiting.

                  • sab@lemmy.world
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                    1 year ago

                    You’re missing the point. I’ll make your example more specific.

                    Well when fraud/rape/murder happens we have laws. So no problems.

                    Those things happen. Creating a LLM based on copyrighted material without permission happens - it’s not a hypothetical. But even then, giving a punishment after the fact does not make the initial crime “no problem”, as you put it.