• Anomalocaris@lemm.ee
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    19 hours ago

    in theory, yes.

    in practice the DNC will protect corporate donations at all cost.

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        15 hours ago

        The guy who regularly wins primaries for his Senate seat and is re-elected?

        The guy who never, at any point, won national primaries for the Democratic nomination for President and therefore wasn’t nominated for the Presidency?

        I love Bernie, but everyone acting like he was treated unfairly by the party establishment when it was the party base that voted against him is dumb. If he’d won the primaries and then the superdelegates chose Clinton or Biden, that’d be a different story. But that’s not what happened. He lost the primaries, and the people who won those primaries received the nominations.

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          6 hours ago

          You’re just going to ignore the democratic party coordinating all the candidates to drop and put their support behind Biden while funding a PAC to keep Warren in the race to split votes with Bernie right before super tuesday? Plus having their big media buddies run the story of “the Biden miracle” after getting democratic party stooge Clyburn to endorse Biden and come out ahead in South Carolina (the state that went to Trump in the general election, by the way).

          Also, the superdelegates made it look like the lead that Clinton had was so insurmountable that it was pointless to turn out for Bernie.

          If you think these have no effect then, by the same logic, you’d think that billionaires spending tons of money on PACs has no effect.

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      18 hours ago

      Hi, I’m a lifelong DNC voter, I think Mamdani is cool and he even got congratulated by Bill Clinton, so I don’t think the DNC you’re talking about really exist in any sizable number. Also, if we cared about corporate donations we, the DNC, wouldn’t have outlawed them for 7 years until the Citizens United SCOTUS decision brought it back.

      I think the nail in Cuomo’s Coffin was saying him and Trump had a mutual respect, which is not only not true but also pissed off a ton of Democrats.

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        18 hours ago

        he even got congratulated by Bill Clinton, so I don’t think the DNC you’re talking about really exist in any sizable number.

        pfft. it’s the same dnc that screwed bernie over for hillary; remember when bill got on the plane with the AG?

        https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/05/04/when_loretta_met_bill_on_the_tarmac_140244.html

        look, I’d prefer clinton over trump any day. but acting like the DNC is all hunky about non-dem-stalwarts playing in their kiddy pool is pretty ridiculous.

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            11 hours ago

            and it did us so much fucking good.

            she wasn’t polarizing at all huh? everyone loved her kumbaya

            no, half the progressive side held there nose and voted for the least-worst. remember doing that? or did you vote for trump because your feefees got hurt about something?

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              7 hours ago

              She would have been a fantastic president and avoided much of the Trump failures. We all should have come together for that outcome.

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                7 hours ago

                she never had a chance but was pushed anyway. even when people who didn’t like her voted for her, it couldn’t overcome her negative baggage. decades worth.

                sure, a lot of that is deplorables and misogynists and fuck them, but, bernie was the better choice every which way. even the birds endorsed him.

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                  6 hours ago

                  She actually polled among the most popular politicians in the USA once upon a time, and her husband Bill Clinton was the last president to create surplus. I wouldn’t really call it decades of negative baggage. Ffs, she participated in the Civil Rights movement alongside Bernie Sanders.

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                    6 hours ago

                    She actually polled among the most popular politicians in the USA once upon a time,

                    but by 2016 was wallowing in a wave of negatives

                    and her husband Bill Clinton was the last president to create surplus.

                    we’ve seen repeatedly that dems save the economy only for conservatives and independents to ignore that; happened with Obama, happened with Biden. That doesn’t justify the way the progs were ignored, arrogantly.

                    Ffs, she participated in the Civil Rights movement alongside Bernie Sanders.

                    well, yeah, but also, her idol was Dr Henry Killinger. Bernie got arrested for protesting during the civil rights movement (there are pics even!), and never endorsed someone who murdered thousands of innocent cambodians.

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            11 hours ago

            yeah things have gone SO well for libs since then.

            HEY, it’s almost like… MISTAKES WERE MADE?

            Or did you prefer this result?

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                10 hours ago

                ok ok you’re on the right path

                it hasn’t, now follow that line of thought to completion. the DNC keeps pushing half ass candidates instead of popular progressives and keeps losing.

                so work it out, you maggoty cumfart of a human, come on you’re so goddamned close to actual enlightenment

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                    9 hours ago

                    Progressives should stop whining about Bernie losing and vote in DNC primaries?

                    because that expectation is working out so fuckin well huh?

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            16 hours ago

            Oh yes of course, the party has changed so much in that time! We had the radical communist Biden elected and all our progressive policies were implemented cementing the democrats victories for a decade to come.

            OH wait, it’s still the same party trying to screw over progressives at every turn? You say Obama got on the phone and got all the other democrats to drop out in the primaries in the 2020 race the day before super tuesday and promised them cabinet positions in the admin?

            Yeah that sure sounds like the party has changed a lot in 10 years and they learned their lessons losing to Trump TWICE

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        13 hours ago

        congratulated by Bill Clinton

        All the DNC guys released the same agreed on “congratulations” statement because traditionally they’re expected to explicitly endorse the winner of the Dem primary for the general election, like Jerry Nadler did, and they’re making a point of refusing to do that.