The student ended up with a fairer complexion, dark blonde hair and blue eyes after her Playground AI request

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    “Asian MIT grad who knows exactly what she is doing, pretends to be shocked after intentionally triggering industry known bias that are already acknowledged and being worked on”

    This is just a student manufacturing controversy ensuring she has a great talking piece at her interviews.

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        Yeah I’m sure this is the first time this MIT computer science grad had noooooo idea what she was doing.

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    You have to pick the model that fits you, and specify what you want. This is how ai works mathematically, it trends towards one image,

    Its like buying foundation randomly and being upset it doesn’t fit your skin tone perfectly.

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    There’s been huge discussion on this already: https://lemmy.nz/post/684888

    Sorry, not sure how to ! post so it opens in your instance.

    TL;DR

    Any result is going to be biased. If it generated a crab wearing liederhosen, it’s obviously a bias towards crabs. You can’t not have a biased output because the prompting is controlling the bias. There’s no cause for concern here. The model is outputting by default the general trend of the data it was trained with. If it was trained with crabs, it would be generating crab-like images.

    You can fix bias with LoRAs and good prompting.

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      The bias isn’t in the software, it is in the data. The stock photos of professional women that were fed in were white.

      That doesn’t say anything about the AI, but rather the community that created those biases.

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        I recall a somewhat similar incident when I was showing an in-law of mine how Stable Diffusion worked a while back. She’s of Indian descent, and she asked Stable Diffusion to generate a picture of an Indian woman. All of the women it generated had Bindis and other “traditional” Indian cultural garb on, and she was initially kind of annoyed by that. But I explained that that’s because most of the photos of women in the training set that were explicitly tagged as Indian were dressed that way, whereas the rest of the Indian women in the training set probably weren’t explicitly tagged. They were just women.

        It was kind of interesting trying to figure out which option was more biased. Realizing that there was an understandable reason behind that helped ease her annoyance.

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        Yes, but they trained on easily accessible data in large amounts. Which actually says that stock photo websites are the biased ones there.

        No model can be trained on an equal amount of diverse data for everyone, and it’s not supposed to anyway. I bet it was hardly if at all trained on Mongolian goat herders, but you could hardly say it’s biased against them, just that there wasn’t an easily accessible large amount of pictures of them.

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          That’s my point. The AI isn’t an independent subject to be criticized, it is a cultural mirror.

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      Just, you know, as long as that profile isn’t for some site whose sole purpose is allowing others to identify you for your career.

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    I mean wouldn’t this just be due to like the sheer number of BS “female professional” stock photos used on the websites of call centers globally, that the AI ingested? Said “professional white person” photos being used especially in non-western websites in order to gain legitimacy in the west?

    Like given what little I know about how AI ingests and spits out data, it might be correlating the buzzword “professional”, and stock photos of white people that were ingested from Asian websites. It might be “wrong” but the AI doesn’t attempt to be “right” it’s just trying to give you what you expect based on the data it has.

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    To be fair, I used a Chinese AI picture generator app with my face and it made it more Asian looking. It’s obvious that each software has biases towards the people who made and trained it. It’s not good, but it’s expected and happening everywhere.

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      Ok, but she asked it to make her look professional and the only thing it changed was her race. Not the background, not her clothes. Last I checked, a university sweatshirt wasn’t exactly professional wear.