There are many things which are holding mass Linux adoption: hardware comparability, too many distros, hard to find and install software (no one cares about your package manager), lack of proprietary software, the list goes on. A lot of that could be resolved by third party developers, but Linux is a moving target and software development is a nightmare.
I was on Slashdot circa 1998 and people back then kept saying mainstream adoption was right around the corner. Meanwhile, 25 years later, the core barriers to entry have yet to be addressed. But Linux is gonna hit the mainstream any day now!
I think the reason for that disconnect is that what a typical Linux user wants is very different from the mainstream desktop user. Linux users want flexibility and freedom, and they don’t mind getting their hands dirty and doing a little research to get there. They’re also patient with setbacks because they believe in FOSS and their privacy.
Now, the Steam Deck’s success, I think, happens in spite of Linux. It’s a closed environnement with a very specific target hardware, so none of the usual problems with a desktop distro are gonna show up. And I’m not even sure that many Deck users realize they’re running games on Linux, to be honest. The Steam wrapper is really its own thing.
I do wish Linux would make serious headway in the desktop space… It’s just frustrating to see that, 25 years on, the main strategy remains crossing fingers and whispering “any day now.”
Agreed on most points, but if you try to do anything unusual on Steam Deck like install Heroic Launcher or get emulators working, you fully realize you are on Linux.
How many Nintendo Switch users install non sanctioned emulators and launchers? No one cares about this stuff, people just want to play games on the go. And Steam Deck delivers exactly that.
Not the person you’re replying to, but Linux has long had a policy of “F backwards compatibility” in the userspace. Try running a 10 year old binary on the current version of a distro. Try a 5 year old binary. Chances are, it’s not going to work, or you’re going to go through dependency hell trying to get the correct library versions for that old binary.
But notice how Windows 11 can run a Windows XP app.
That’s the problem. Most users aren’t going to want to compile from source, assuming the software they’re trying to use is even open source. Hell, nvidia users constantly have driver issues because the binary blobs must be updated to continue working after kernel updates. And that’s not to mention all the competing package managers and distro quirks with library versions and naming.
You can run 16 bit Windows 3.0 apps on Windows 10 on compatible hardware. Can I run any Linux application compiled 20+ years ago on any modern distro without any fuckery? No. I can’t even run apps compiled for the latest Arch on the latest Ubuntu, lol. Software development for Linux is a total nightmare.
This is true, but kind of exaggerated. I can’t run some windows 7 apps on Windows 10. I have been able to run some backalley Linux software from an html 1.0 site designed in the 90’s no problem.
On both platforms backwards compatibility is a little hit or miss, but yeah Linux is worse.
There are many things which are holding mass Linux adoption: hardware comparability, too many distros, hard to find and install software (no one cares about your package manager), lack of proprietary software, the list goes on. A lot of that could be resolved by third party developers, but Linux is a moving target and software development is a nightmare.
I was on Slashdot circa 1998 and people back then kept saying mainstream adoption was right around the corner. Meanwhile, 25 years later, the core barriers to entry have yet to be addressed. But Linux is gonna hit the mainstream any day now!
I think the reason for that disconnect is that what a typical Linux user wants is very different from the mainstream desktop user. Linux users want flexibility and freedom, and they don’t mind getting their hands dirty and doing a little research to get there. They’re also patient with setbacks because they believe in FOSS and their privacy.
Now, the Steam Deck’s success, I think, happens in spite of Linux. It’s a closed environnement with a very specific target hardware, so none of the usual problems with a desktop distro are gonna show up. And I’m not even sure that many Deck users realize they’re running games on Linux, to be honest. The Steam wrapper is really its own thing.
I do wish Linux would make serious headway in the desktop space… It’s just frustrating to see that, 25 years on, the main strategy remains crossing fingers and whispering “any day now.”
Agreed on most points, but if you try to do anything unusual on Steam Deck like install Heroic Launcher or get emulators working, you fully realize you are on Linux.
How many Nintendo Switch users install non sanctioned emulators and launchers? No one cares about this stuff, people just want to play games on the go. And Steam Deck delivers exactly that.
Don’t forget accessibility. Vision, motor, etc. sorry but the state of most of that is not so good right now.
Could you clarify what you mean with this?
Not the person you’re replying to, but Linux has long had a policy of “F backwards compatibility” in the userspace. Try running a 10 year old binary on the current version of a distro. Try a 5 year old binary. Chances are, it’s not going to work, or you’re going to go through dependency hell trying to get the correct library versions for that old binary.
But notice how Windows 11 can run a Windows XP app.
That’s the problem. Most users aren’t going to want to compile from source, assuming the software they’re trying to use is even open source. Hell, nvidia users constantly have driver issues because the binary blobs must be updated to continue working after kernel updates. And that’s not to mention all the competing package managers and distro quirks with library versions and naming.
You can run 16 bit Windows 3.0 apps on Windows 10 on compatible hardware. Can I run any Linux application compiled 20+ years ago on any modern distro without any fuckery? No. I can’t even run apps compiled for the latest Arch on the latest Ubuntu, lol. Software development for Linux is a total nightmare.
This is true, but kind of exaggerated. I can’t run some windows 7 apps on Windows 10. I have been able to run some backalley Linux software from an html 1.0 site designed in the 90’s no problem.
On both platforms backwards compatibility is a little hit or miss, but yeah Linux is worse.
Yes, some apps might not run. Yet some Win16 do actually run on Windows 10.