• _pete_@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    As a web developer the problem I have is there are issues with all the browsers that are available today:

    • Chrome and Edge are owned by big companies and report god-knows-what back to their motherships whilst constantly pushing their own services
    • Firefox uses its own rendering engine so it can have some Firefox specific bugs / differences that might be missed, plus doesn’t have support for some of the extensions that you want
    • Safari doesn’t have windows or extensions support
    • Opera is full of random features and promotional bumpf that I don’t care about and have to turn off
    • Vivaldi is a complicated beast that takes a bunch of work to set up, it also includes a mail client, calendar and feed reader in the browser which I don’t need.
    • DuckDuckGo doesn’t have any extension support at all
    • Arc is really fiddly and doesn’t always behave how I want it to (bookmarks behave like tabs for some reason)
    • Brave pulls things like this and is also full of crypto/wallet type stuff, plus you can’t even change your home page.

    I just want a simple Chromium browser that doesn’t require me to turn a bunch of shit off, is private by default and supports extensions, I don’t think it’s too much to ask!

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      As a web developer you should really take a look at Firefox developer eidition. It comes with very nice features for web developers and you are always at the edge of new things FF will support so you see things that will come soon to the rest of the Firefox users.

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        1 year ago

        Normally I would agree with you, but I often need to use the Postman Interceptor extension which is only on Chromium browsers

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          1 year ago

          Workflow differs from person to person. Not sure what that extension does or why it’s needed, but I guess you are use to it.

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      1 year ago

      Check out ungoogled-chromium. It needs some extra work to get extensions (and probably drm stuff) to work, but has good defaults otherwise.

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      1 year ago

      If you want you can just use Vivaldi like any other browser, I would think, what is there that needs to be set up that doesn’t in other browsers?

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      1 year ago

      I guess you do get 3-4 questions when you install Vivaldi, like do you want tabs on top, should it import anything, and do you want to use mail and calendar too or just browser.

      But “a complicated beast” to set up? No, it works like any other browser right out of the box. It offers advanced customization if you want to dive into them though.

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      Any chromium based browser will force manifest v3 on you though, keep that in mind.

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      1 year ago

      Firefox uses its own rendering engine so it can have some Firefox specific bugs / differences that might be missed, plus doesn’t have support for some of the extensions that you want

      I used to do QA for a Web portal, and issues with Firefox not scaling .svg files properly was driving me up the wall. There were more obscure issues, but this one was so basic that I couldn’t believe we still had to have a separate code for Firefox browsers.

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      Arc has been pretty good for me so far. But the challenge will be at what point they stop stuffing it with new ideas, and will that be before it turns into a bloated mess. Edge is a great example of this.

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        Yea, I really liked Edge when it was first launched, clean fast and simple. These days there is so much shoe-horning of Microsoft integrations it just feels like they’re desperately trying to steal all of your personal information

        Arc could be amazing but there are some features which just don’t work as I would expect.