Default instance blocks should largely replace defederation

Since what content users might want to see is quite unlikely to match which servers the admins tolerate, choosing instance on the Fediverse can be quite complicated, which is inconvenient and off-putting for new users.

For this reason, and simply that the Fediverse is stronger united, I believe defederation should ideally be reserved for illegal content and extreme cases. If Fediverse platforms would allow instances to simply block the rest for users by default, the user experience would be the same, unless they decide otherwise.

@fediverse #fediverse #defederation

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    Its a private party, not a service to anyone. The host does it because they enjoy having a party with their friends and other people that know how to behave.

    And no, federated users are no different from local users. What matters is the server location of the community.

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        9 months ago

        If you host your own instance you are free to invite who ever you choose to your own parties 🤷‍♂️

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            What ethics? Anyone is free to open an account elsewhere.

            And its not about locking anyone in, but why should I as an instance host pay for the drinks of someone that takes them to another party with horrible people that constantly try to crash parties over at my place?

            I don’t mind doing that with nice people’s parties as I want to go over to their parties sometimes as well.

            But if they really want to hang out with these horrible party crashers, they can move over there or make their own party and invite them.

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                I think you need to be more specific in what you mean by that. I don’t think anything in the metaphors that I just wrote is unethical.

                Corporate social media is unethical because they spy on you and sell your personal data to advertisers. In addition one could argue they are also unethical because they optimize their algorithms to psychologically manipulate you with the goal of stealing your time and attention so that they can show you more advertisements.

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                    For 99% of the users, defederation is a complete non-issue and doesn’t effect the choice of an instance at all.

                    IMHO the only people that are complaining about it are either doing it in bad faith or have been somehow gaslit into believing it is an issue by others that did so in bad faith.