@thepig in my experience these folks think everyone is either rich or has zero disabilities of any kind when thats actually about .00000001% of humans. Or theyre really young and have no idea how much life sucks (but make the best of it anyway if youre here)
@BlueOysterCultist I mean, mine wasnt great (childhood abuse) but I make the most of it myself. Theres definitely fun to be had. I just see zero reason to drag an unconsenting person into the world. Like, why? If people were actually not selfish, they’d adopt. I am selfish and I enjoy my alone time, so I will probably end up doing neither.
I don’t think it’s a problem to be selfish, if you can provide for the kid (both emotionally and materially).
Also the foster/adopt system is exceedingly slow (months to years for placement) and the older children are likely to have serious issues. Personally I’d be fine with fostering to adopt but I don’t want to risk bringing a behavioral nightmare of a teen into my house.
For new life, assuming the emotional + material needs are met, existence is definitely worth it over nothingness. Global warming and all these authoritarian politicians are definitely making for a shitty looking future for new life though.
@thepig agree. I’d say in general, my life has maybe been 15-20% enjoyment, the rest was either meh or outright sucked. The enjoyment portion gets smaller as one gets older, especially if you aren’t raking in cash by the time youre 40, you won’t have a fun time.
To give someone a chance to experience the pleasure of living.
To contribute to the world an additional person of quality and integrity.
You probably just haven’t been asking very thoughtful or articulate people.
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@thepig in my experience these folks think everyone is either rich or has zero disabilities of any kind when thats actually about .00000001% of humans. Or theyre really young and have no idea how much life sucks (but make the best of it anyway if youre here)
Yall got some dismal life experiences; what a dour outlook on life.
@BlueOysterCultist I mean, mine wasnt great (childhood abuse) but I make the most of it myself. Theres definitely fun to be had. I just see zero reason to drag an unconsenting person into the world. Like, why? If people were actually not selfish, they’d adopt. I am selfish and I enjoy my alone time, so I will probably end up doing neither.
I don’t think it’s a problem to be selfish, if you can provide for the kid (both emotionally and materially).
Also the foster/adopt system is exceedingly slow (months to years for placement) and the older children are likely to have serious issues. Personally I’d be fine with fostering to adopt but I don’t want to risk bringing a behavioral nightmare of a teen into my house.
For new life, assuming the emotional + material needs are met, existence is definitely worth it over nothingness. Global warming and all these authoritarian politicians are definitely making for a shitty looking future for new life though.
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@thepig agree. I’d say in general, my life has maybe been 15-20% enjoyment, the rest was either meh or outright sucked. The enjoyment portion gets smaller as one gets older, especially if you aren’t raking in cash by the time youre 40, you won’t have a fun time.