At least regionally, “guys” as in “hey guys” and “you guys!!” and “uh, guys?” – that is, to address a group is indeed gender neutral.
In the Midwest you will absolutely hear spaces comprised solely of women use “guys” to address the group. Only the oldest sticklers/prescriptivists would insist said group be addressed as “ladies”
That said, more than a few trans women I’ve met – even locally – don’t have that lived experience and I can imagine they find it difficult to believe.
The search for less ambiguous language to protect their feeling of acceptance and safety is worthwhile even though “you guys” is a neutral address.
Well, guys is not an inclusive term that covers all genders. Just use “Hey everyone” instead.
The dictionary disagrees with you
Then care to tell us how many guys you have shagged?
Why would I share personal info on the internet?
When I was a cashier I got a customer complaint because I refered to and I quote “A woman and her two young ladies” as guys.
Doesnt change the fact that especially trans people might not feel included in this term. I am not a guy and I dont want to be referred to as one.
At least regionally, “guys” as in “hey guys” and “you guys!!” and “uh, guys?” – that is, to address a group is indeed gender neutral.
In the Midwest you will absolutely hear spaces comprised solely of women use “guys” to address the group. Only the oldest sticklers/prescriptivists would insist said group be addressed as “ladies”
That said, more than a few trans women I’ve met – even locally – don’t have that lived experience and I can imagine they find it difficult to believe.
The search for less ambiguous language to protect their feeling of acceptance and safety is worthwhile even though “you guys” is a neutral address.