I like loops, but it looks to be heavily ai assisted lately. Doesn’t bother me, because it actually made decent progress and looks way less dated now. I just find it funny how as long as a dev obscures or doesn’t mention it, no one seems to notice. Catadon looks pretty interesting too, hella bloated and the ui has some odd choices but it has some potential. It’s at least getting some ideos out there and showing they can work.