When we mine the land for precious minerals, what do we gain, and what do we lose?

These giant balls of metal each represent an exact amount of material: the volumes produced by various mines in South Africa.

Artist and photographer Dillon Marsh wanted to visualise the value that humans have taken from the Earth, and its impact.

He added digital balls of material to these photos of scarred landscapes to illustrate what was gained, and what was lost.

The series is called: ‘For what it’s worth’.

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    10 months ago

    I like the general idea here but, without something to compare with for scale, the pictures are just completely meaningless.

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      10 months ago

      The ones that are on flat or raised land I’m not sure how to interpret, but I assume the ones with a pit would originally have been filled in. Even if I took the density of each material to calculate it’s dimensions in the picture most of them are still kinda hard to wrap my head around.

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    10 months ago

    Open pit mines are about the least problematic thing there is. Literally just moving around what is already there. We gained so incredibly much more than what we “lost” in those tiny areas.

    Maybe look at how the gold is extracted from the rock if you want to know the extent of what crazy shit they did/do. Or the blood that is on such a large portion of diamonds. Never buy those.

    wanted to visualise the value that humans have taken from the Earth, and its impact.

    Those pictures fail to do that. Where do we see any lost value? Unless you get a before and after picture, you could not even tell if that was man made or natural for most of those mines. There is also no visualization of the impact. Not even what kind of impact. Social? Economical? Nature? Who knows.

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      10 months ago

      Holy cow. There’s a lot to unpack in your comment. I won’t contest that we need metals for the most part. gold is an iffy one, with about 50% of it still being used for jewelry.

      I also won’t contest the human cost - it’s awful when it comes to artisanal mining.

      What you are grossly oversimplifying is the environmental impact. Just moving around what is already there while true in the most basic sense, negates the impact caused my Metal Leaching/Acid Rock Drainage (ML/ARD) issues that come from taking rocks out of the ground and most of it is due to how common pyrite and sulphate minerals are. These oxidize and then mobilize other metals in the rock and it discharged to the environment during precipitation events.

      Here is how bad it can be: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/es990646v

      other good ones to look at are the Giant mine or the Anaconda mine. Giant has enough toxic waste (Arsenic Trioxide) to kill everyone on the planet several times over. This makes the ‘what we lost’ part pretty untrue. On top of this, 70% of mines become abandoned. It’s a big issue.

      Unless you get before and after photos

      It’s pretty clear there are pits and disturbances. There tons of potential environmental impact if you dig into this a little bit.

      I’m happy to talk about these impacts more if you like but I’ll cut it off here for now.

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        10 months ago

        Hence my comment about how gold is extracted. That is not an issue of a mine itself and it also looks completely different and was in no way shown or indicated. There are only very few mines that directly result in pollution etc. like with the example of arsenic.

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          10 months ago

          Why do you think most mines don’t pollute?

          Most mines result in pollution during their production phase, and herculean efforts go into managing this. For instance, all their tailings get placed in a Tailings management facility, which is literally just a localized spot to put all their slurry that can’t be released to the environment.

          Even if they do their job and manage their pollution, shit happens. Just look up tailings dam failure, for instance. This is why abandonment is such a large issue.

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            10 months ago

            Those slurries are from the processing, not mining. Same with tailings, they are what is left over after extraction.

            Mines pollute. But in completely irrelevant amounts compared to the whole rest of the chain.

            This is an artists impression from someone who did not study the topic. It fails to show what it set out to show. It is that simple.

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    10 months ago

    They’re not precious if we’re not taking advantage of them. Like I tell people in Eve or Albion. Good ships/gear are only good when in use. They’re wasted in your inventory.