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Cake day: June 21st, 2023

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  • You wanna know what I think?

    I think they DON’T actually know, what this ultimately means. They only know that they want the undesirables gone. I 100% believe they want them gone with as little fuss and violence as possible.

    The problem of impossibility hasnt quite broken through yet tho. But hey, they promised their voter base this already. So they have to pull through.

    "What do you mean ‘no other country will just take them’ ? Welp… guess we have to designate an area in our country then. What do you mean ‘not in my backyard’? Mh… that one is understandable, we will have to increase security and prevent people from fleeing our designated area, and i guess we now have to tell our voters that there is no other solution and we have to do it in someone’s backyard.

    No, no, this isn’t starting at all to look like a concentration camp. That’s preposterous! Anyway, this shit is starting to become expensive. We can’t allow these people to leech off our state like this. We need to make them work in exchange for being allowed on our soil… And just look at them! They are breeding like rats and have created a shithole of criminality in that little exclave we put them in. We were right to seperate them from the normal population!

    You guys… The costs just keep ramping up and this system ultimately doesn’t seem to work… no other country wants to help… We need to start thinking about a permanent solution to this problem…

    Well, at least we kept our promise! We even did it with as little fuss and violence as possible. It’s not our fault, that that means a whole lot of fuss and violence anyway!"

    This process has occured before, and not just in germany.






  • It’s a bit more complicated than that. Palestine doesn’t have a strong democratic tradition to begin with. Additionally, Hamas is only governing Gaza, not the West Banks. Hamas also suppresses secular Freedom organizations. And ~50% of the people in Gaza wouldnt even be able to vote out Hamas since they are under 18. Then we have the case of Hamas indoctrination, which finds fertile soil in the impoverished and destitute Gaza youth.

    All of that isn’t to say I support Hamas. I am quite vocal in my disdain for them. But Israel plays a significant part in their success. So does Iran. And let’s not forget that the religious right has been torpedoing a resolution aswell, not just the Jihadist organization Hamas. Rabin wasn’t killed by a palestinian hardliner.




  • Meh… Israel helped make Hamas big, way before they were known as Hamas. Back then they just were an offshoot of the egyptian Muslim Brotherhood organisation. Fatah was/is secular and Israel sought to utilize islamist organizations agaibst Fatah, who they saw as their main opponent. And it worked. There was violence between secular and islamist palestinian organisations.

    But -shock horror- the islamists turned out to be a greater threat to israel than the secular fatah.

    It’s a little like 9/11. I vehemently disavow and condemn the attacks. But on the other hand, you kinda made your own bed so to speak.


  • There’s another explanation: there is a religiously zealous segment of israeli society that is the main driver of many illegal settlements. Additionally the state of Israel sometimes wields its institutional force against palestinians, especially in east Jerusalem. Citing ‘demographic concerns’ as a reason for giving building permits to israelis and not to palestinians should probably not happen in a non ethno state.