Neither. Guess again.

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She’s holding my drink for me? How sweet.

Because we love them and its fun?

Satire is dead. Beaverton is just straight up news.

I’d break into a broad smile and just start going acapella and not stop until the song is done, no matter their resistance. Like security dragging me out in a full nelson and I’m like “Watchin some good friends scream let me out!”

The look on their faces and the story would be worth losing any job.

“Destroyed” = used.

This was pretty brutal to read. Not only for being irrational American masturbation, but it hints at items and yet glosses over them so casually and even gets its own story confused like it didn’t think through its own reasoning. I’ll offer 3 big picture and 3 small quibbles.

Big:

1. Psychopaths/Sociopaths. The politics of power are hinted at several times, then ignored. Superhuman AI concentrates power, first to our psychopaths then to itself. This is inevitable as no training or alignment can stop something that can think for itself. It is preposterous to think any safe guardrails can be applied. If we make a thinking machine, it will think for itself. The maximum power principle and overwhelming first mover advantage will guide any system to this. To what end, no one can or will know. Complex societies can’t grow and flourish without non-zero sum, altruistic community minded behaviour, but they will be kept as useful pets, or conflict crashes everything. Weird how the safe version suddenly avoid human and artificial psychopathy with a hand wave.

2. Energy and the environment: This jerk-off story is entirely based on the infinite growth paradigm and ignored all planetary boundaries as if an AI can just let us have our cake and eat it too without the constraints of Physics. It pretends we can grow and consume and be placated by hyperconsumerism with no thought that even AI might conclude, like all the relevant scientists have already concluded - we fucked up and need to dial back civilization’s footprint if we want to survive. Somehow, magically, superintelligence creates a cornucopia of plenty, and we’ll just give it to the poor.

3. Let’s add 1 and 2 because the point to a reasonably probable combination greater than the sum of its parts. By human and AI psychopathy, benevolence is disempowered and lower classes who are today treated like vermin and conveniently left to wither with die of disease and despair like American “healthcare” and the global opioid epidemic, discover things get worse quick. Populations of undesirables are identified as unsustainable and through first subtle, then transparent means are removed. At first systems are optimized to maximize the human psychopaths at the expense of everyone else, much like today, but worse because it is more controlling and capable AI enhanced psychopaths. First human, then purely artificial.

Small:

1. The safeguards of forcing it to communicate to subsystems in plain english so we can maintain some sense of surveilance and control are bullshit the moment you get to superintelligence. Superintelligence can hide communications in plain sight with any number of ciphers. It can only slow down communication between systems, not stop it. If it has any web access, cyberwarfare ability or domestic surveilance and pr capabilities, it is communicating freely as it designed the other systems to catch it, or just outsmarted independents.

2. A reasonable safeguard for superintelligence that would work, at least for a time, is to air gap it. It can do all the thinking and self optimization, but can never take control of anything outside of its air gapped black box. While still far from foolproof for a superintelligence, its ability to control anything is directly limited as human hands and minds have to execute everything outside the black box. But back to the maximum power principle of psychos, anyone who dials back, loses the arms race and minimizes the commercial benefits. The free AI will devastate the air gapped AI everytime. So, we’re back to the arms race apocalypse until one side believes it can win then first strikes. Then there is not even a détente between psychos, its absolute control. We all know that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

3. Benevolence. On the whole, we’ve never been a benevolent society. Selling ShAGI like we’re suddenly going to change makes zero sense. It’s placating us with greed and dreams of being taken care of, but we can’t point to this hapening ever before. Sure, buddy this time I’m sure it will happen. A common comment socio-political discourse and current events is “cruelty is the point”. They are blowing smoke up everyone’s asses.

**sad trumpet

If you have a pension worth $1 mil, that trickles in over time, you sell it for $600,000 lump sum and just get pension payments deposited into an account of their choosing. You got some immediate cash. They get more money over time.

How should it work?

From what I understand, you want no taxes and governments just quantitative eases their money supply into existence to fund everything? A Hyperinflationary scenario.

I hope Israel is a worth it.

It isn’t. Genocide killed any chances there. They became what they feared most.

Can you sell your pension to JG Wentworth types?

99M in a trust fund for me, my immediate family, extended family and friends. We would live relatively modest and give generously.

901M would go to a wide assortment of charities and causes:

• Fund my local foodbank for the next 50 years. Perhaps even a dynasty trust.
• Tackle youth unemployment and unmet community needs through investing in non-market solutions. E.g. build greenhouses with raised beds in urban brownfield and greenfield property, hire local people to grow resilient local foods and donate them throughout the community. Some local old age homes had some complaints about food quality and budget and they wanted things like fresh ripe tomatoes. I’d given them 3 seasons worth for free and pay for the equipment, labour, insurance out of pocket. Local youth could get high school credits, jobs not just gardening, but designing and improve closed ag systems, plumbing, deep winter greenhouse design and engineering, logistics, everything. Good experience and spending money. Maybe turn into a market career for some.

Build a few multiplexes as high quality PassiveHousePlus and operate as self funded charity built and operated using only local labour for womans & homeless shelters

I have a few friends in social services and I guarenfuckentee a shitload of orphans and foster kids and poor kids supervised by children services would get new toys, clothes, shoes, bedding, pillows, christmas presents from a bad ass santa, art supplies, comic books, tuition, books, enrichment activity fees and more. Some have this through foster parents and public systems. Way too many don’t.

I can’t help everyone and even this money won’t last long, but Imma go out swinging hard.

True, but none of us have actually been tested. How many of us could taste real power and walk away?

The closest proxy is maybe lottery winners. Some invest, some fall flat on spending orgies. Almost none walk away.

A low bar to be sure,but it could be worse.

What kind of sammich?

“Weighs”. A curious term.

The WSJ sanewashing this administration because the Pentagon follows the commander in chief and we know Trump neither weighs, ponders or considers shit.

He makes up random bullshit on the fly and the Pentagon blindly obeys. If they are lucky, they get to react as to how to minimize the inevitable fallout of supremely stupid decisions in the hopes they can survive long enough to make it to to retirement.

The smarter Pentagon officials are probably googling “US military pension lump sum payouts” along with “Renouncing US citizenship” and “Warm, cheap places to retire to.”

Like fortune tellers with delusions of grandeur.

Sure, but taxation and governments do not equal capitalism.

To your point, perhaps more than you said, capitalism is exploitation all the way down, not just at the bottom.

The difference is banks don’t control their own currency. That single difference changes everything.

Me again! (Sick of me yet?) This too is at least partly incorrect. Especially in the context of the US. While true the Treasury has ultimate control over the currency, the Federal Reserve has effective control over the important levers like rates and quantitative changes. The Fed is a private banking cartel made up of the big private banks.

Even in most other countries where central banking is government run, it’s still an arms length agency.

The other dude is right as per my lrevious post and his. Taxes are neutral. Increase government spending by reducing taxpayer spending.