I think the reports of Vance having “won” are greatly overstated:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2024/10/02/tim-walz-jd-vance-polls-both-candidates-favorability-increases-post-debate/

42% vs. 41%? That’s well within the margin of error, LOL.

Yes. That’s always the question the hard right and their apologists and the Enligtened Centrists ™ can never answer in any serious way and that question is - how can the news outlet of a huge MNC and/or controlled by an oligarch be, in any serious way, on the left?

These unserious people keep telling me that “well, everyone just knows” or quoting polls that poll the newsreaders or the stenographers for the elite and who they are registered for, not realizing we are talking about the help, not the owners. What the help wants or who they vote for doesn’t mean a fart in a high wind. It’s the owners that call the tune, FFS.

Oh, my first impression was it might be WSJ. Which if those other two are supposedly centrist, but almost always side with the right, then WSJ’s op-ed portion is almost cartoonishly right-wing.

They are the hardest, longest and girthiest of numbers.

The “both sides” types seem to think it is entirely credible… 🤣

Also, what is the source of that image?

The idea that these putzes whine about being fact-checked. This is where we are at.

And this from the bunch that wear shirts that say things like “fuck your feelings” and “facts don’t care about your feelings”. Then they melt the very second a fact shows up to negate their feelings about their fictions.

Maybe the cops could all focus that hour on criminals like donnie?

It was a rather local maximum, though.

The fact that this POS is still free to walk around and make demands in relation to anything, never mind his own terrorism, is beyond ridiculous.

Also, yeah, finding out the FACTS about a dirtbag like donnie SHOULD influence the election. Rightly so.

Not to the RWNJs and their thought leaders. And the thought leaders are going to give climate change the Big Tobacco treatment for as long as they possibly can.

The Heritage Foundation are nothing but thugs.

Hell, the overall trend for decades is that both violent crime and property crime are going down. But try to tell that to today’s right wing that and see them react.

Yep, exactly. Also, look at how the USPS works.

Republican chuds: “Big Guvmit can’t do anything right, it’s the worst, they are hurting my freedom, argle bargle!”

Also Republican chuds: “Back the blue (unless they break up a terrorist action called in by our former failed president) and our military is the bestest and shiniest in the whole wide WURLD!”

Christ, what an absolutely terrible idea. Of course the magachuds would be stroking off to such an idea…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaS_WXQ9QK0

They never really were. The Bircher types have always whined that the corporate media is “the liberal media”. This was and is complete nonsense, of course. Of course, to compensate for this constant whining, they have internalized this silliness and constantly steer into goofy practices like being “objective” and giving equal times to “both sides” - this only enables the pathological lying that is the norm for the right.

Never claimed to be. I sure hope your doctor has better nutrition training than the average doctor. That is if you are only going to rely on your personal doctor for anything nutrition-related.

This should be the word of the year, by the way. Someone really, really nailed it with that portmanteau. It perfectly describes what the “liberal media” does all the time with RWNJs like dimbulb donnie.

Yeah, but does he have concepts of a plan?