Or moving to a different area

You’re basically asking for what slate promises to be.

Also, you totally didn’t say it, but I feel like whining about it so: A lot of people think that the infotainment in cars could be stripped out to lower the price, but a big touch screen is actually very cheap and it might even be more expensive to have a bunch of bespoke buttons per model, so really, the idea of a gutted out vehicle wouldn’t save any money. The only actual money savers would be in areas like the suspension, build quality, engine size, that sort of thing.

This could be solved so many different ways.

The most obvious is getting read of the stupid CAFE regulations and Chicken tax that basically incentivise the fuck out of making these monstrosities.

The others are less likely to be done in a country like the USA with its 2 party system where the options are conservatism and fascist conservatism.

I’m trying to tell you there’s no slow process change out of this administration.

You better hope there is, because you certainly aren’t going to be participating in any fast “you first” ones.

There is a slim chance that people who spend more time ensuring democrats don’t get votes, bitching about them while complaining there is a solution, stopped doing that and democrats won in 2026 with sufficient margins to withstand all the bullshit levied at it.

This would of course involve things like prop 50 being in place (which passed), and thats all increasingly looking like hail mary too, all because yall wont accept anything except a perfect hail mary, which will never come.

Even in your comment you point out it won’t be fixed in one term as if that’s the expectation, but that’s what I’m talking about here. It was never going to be 1, 2 or even 3 terms. Its a long, slow process.

When people don’t see immediate rapid change and give up, instead waiting for it to get so bad, it gets even worse (fictional revolution thinking), this just makes the system as it is more entrenched. They’ll happily keep you at bay.

It’s funny due to the obvious absurdity

As opposed to what? Fantasies on voting ourselves into progress?

These aren’t fantasies. They’re at least plausible.

Fantasies on believing some candidate is going to save us?

Beliefs that any one person can save you are part of the problem.

We all voted for Bernie in 2016.

Yeah, and you keep voting for progressive elements within the only party that is even possible to shift towards that element until you’ve taken them over. It takes a shit ton of time, is unfun, and wont get you anything near instant results, but its the cards you’re dealt. You deal with them or don’t.

We’re all voting against Trump. America is pissed. Where is our outrage supposed to be aimed at and what can we do?

Discouraging people from doing anything is the opposite of helpful though, and encouraging people is something you can do. That along with participating in more than just federal politics.

Part of the reason there is no hope is comments like these.

You aren’t going to do that, so stop focusing on fictional power fantasies.

Yup.

You seem to think MAGAs act within the boundaries of the law… must be nice to be so innocent

In no universe could anything I said be reasonably summarized as this. Its actually pretty ridiculous this is the conclusion you came to.

First of, I have ever said people should not vote.

Because implications don’t exist right?

I am simply stating the fact that it will not be enough, not anymore.

Which just encourages people not to vote if you’re saying it doesnt help.

Second, you keep the “until that happens” as if that make any sense… You are the one moving the goal post here to justify inaction.

Im sorry bud, what actions are there exactly that you’re so willing to step up to take?

As far as I understand it, any action that I’m advocating for is apparently justifying inaction, but actions further than that would mean you couldn’t be talking to me right now.

You do not want to sacrifice anything to get your country out of the hole you allow it to get… and news flash, once the power grab is complete (you are 98% there) there will be no option left… every minute you allow to pass doing fuck all, is a minute you are closer to having NO OPTIONS LEFT

Once again, what are you doing buddy?

Yet your “strategy” here is to do nothing an wait 19 months to cast a ballot… where did I say it was one battle?

You really like to imply a shit ton from nothing so that you can argue against strawmen dont you.

Pretty much the entire rest of the world is thinking it.

No we aren’t. Bernie is not someone the rest of the world would consider center right. You’re being hyperbolic.

Just like many other “solutions”, this is just a wish, not a solution.

The actual solution involves actually reaching that point.

Unfortunately, at this particular point in time, its also your death sentence, and they’re fine iwth that, because its not really their death sentence, whereas seeing where this is going it might literally be yours.

The question starts out with a strawman argument. The full comment included “All that time, youll need to replace the old guard with more progressive members through overwhelming support in primaries, and being active in state and local politics.”

There also aren’t many countries that have the same political situations as the USA. What other countries are democratic republics with extremely slow constitutional and political inertia, top class military and insane intelligence capabilities.

The question doesnt make sense. This is a one of one.

As humorous as this sounds, this is not at all how battery chemistries works.

Some chemistries just charge faster than others.

for the common types of Lion or Lipo batteries, they max out pushing 2C which is around 30 minutes.

For something like LTO, where you lose capacity/density, you can get that up to like 4C (very rough numbers here as this all depends on the temperature of the battery while charging, age and other factors).

So like… this could have been accurate if this was referring to switching to LTO, but afaik, no one makes LTO batteries in this form-factor (not that it can’t be done though).

Literally what part of that changes a single thing I’ve said here?

You have no solution.

You roll your eyes at the only one because its unpleasant.

we can’t know the alternative timeline where the democrats would have won; but if their past behaviour is any indication they would have acted over confident and let the republicans walk all over them as before

In what universe does this make any sense. The republicans wouldn’t have the political power to do that.

what we can do is look at the present and easily see that the fascist grab of power is basically complete and there is zero chance they will give up power

And until that happens, there is no point in try to get people not to participate.

I’m canadian but your are making my point, Americans are too gaslit, selfish and uninformed to even vote rationaly

And you only help that with your encouragement of voter apathy.

do you think the magas would be this enboldened if any republican had been accountable?

I’m not arguing against that, Im pointing out that its a constant fight, not one battle.

Nothing is just a distraction. They’re all just similarly evil parts of the plan, that they have fully documented, and that people just kinda keep ignoring.

He actively supports all the big nazi “causes” you can think of, and is a privileged white man from south africa, whose companies have been sued an abnormal amount of times for racial discrimination, and who constantly talks about white replacement theory while artificially having as many white children as possible, and you don’t think he’s a nazi???

People really do be giving rich people every conceivable benefit of the doubt in existence. Holy fuck.

Are you denying that if people had voted for the democrats just a few percent more this year project 2025 would not have been stopped, as trump likely would be dead when it came time for the next event?

If people stayed sharp, they would be kept down.

Of course the DNC could do more. The question is could you, the people, do any less to secure your democracy.

The DNC is far from perfect, but what they do is out of our control except in the ways I literally covered at the start of this chain.

I don’t get how people act like there should just be this sudden moment where once and for all fascists will disappear. It will and has always been a continuous fight.

I do not hope everyone starts talking like Mamdani tomorrow.

Mamdani talked for NYC and its problems. My hypothetical Mamdani would just be quick witted, and talk about active solutions for the people, but on the federal scale. I by no means think people would magically agree to everything Mamdani is talking about. It was about a shift in messaging to being about pragmatic change for the people. not fighting progressives within the party etc.

What won’t work is "let’s divide ourselves as progressives vs. establishment, pro vs tepid trans support, split every hair and make ourselves look like the weak navel-gazers they paint us as. Stop dithering about **who is “DNC” and who isn’t. **

Im not sure I follow that last part. The DNC is a very real organization with very real leaders and goals. Its not something that is disputed, its a factual, existing organization.

We need to identify and empower these people within the Democratic party, and that might mean putting side differences to build the big tent coalition we need.

Part of the problem, is that you need a draw, and if you can’t use hate, you have to use appealing to the common person with change. The idea that its about a bigger tent, is something that needs change within the DNC/Old gaurd too.

They don’t seem to want to accept the progressive elements, and Im not talking about the people online who say nonsense about third parties or revolutions, I mean people like AOC, Bernie, Mamdani. They fight them tooth and nail, and thats part of the problem. Of course, as I mentioned, we can’t solve that though, as we’re not part of the DNC, hence the solution I recommend.