has not said how he would handle the mounting debt in another White House term.
Yes he has. By dumping more debt on them. He’s already stated his plans to reinstate the debt and add retroactive interest. Tarriffs are going to make prices skyrocket, and then God knows what Elon Musk is going to come up with, but even he said it wasn’t going to be good.
Our children will be paying for all of this for decades to come.
See also Bill Barr.
You think Trump gives a shit if she does anything beyond sit there and play with herself all day? She’s there to take his orders and that’s it.
Though I do agree, a SCOTUS seat is also a very real possibility. But she’s getting one or the other.
I’m not saying you’re necessarily wrong. But Trump won by far more than Stein pulled away from Harris (Outside of maybe Michigan). Even if she did court those votes, it probably wouldn’t have mattered.
But last night wasn’t the result of a political miscalculation that they realized in hindsight. She underperformed when compared to Biden by roughly 10%. 8-10 million Democrats that voted last time opted out this time. That’s a shellacking. 8-10 million people said “I’m not going to vote for Trump, but I’d first step aside and let Trump win anyway over voting for Harris.” There was nothing she could have done to win them over. Her campaign was doomed from the start. She just didn’t know it at the time.
It proved to not be enough. The people who were coming to her rallies were apparently all people who were going to vote for her anyway; the size of the rallies only gave the illusion that her campaign was attracting more voters. And with so many Democrats actively choosing to stay home rather than vote at all, it seems like nothing she did would have mattered anyway. But given the crap she had to work with, she ran a near-flawless campaign. She had no way of knowing that it just didn’t matter.
Something to keep in mind.
Trump didn’t win a significant number of new voters. He kept his base, which is roughly the size of what it was in 2020.
The problem was that Harris lost voters. In droves. Nationwide. And she took a lot of winnable downballot candidates with her. And I’m not even saying that to blame her. She ran a magnificent campaign while Trump was most noted for saying “They’re eating the dogs!”. So why did she still lose, and lose so hard? Because Democrats stayed home. Roughly about 10% of them overall, nationwide. Sure, some of them stayed home or voted 3rd party to protest Gaza, especially in Michigan. But the real story is that she underperformed so badly nationwide. I mean, for the love of God, New Jersey was competitive. That call about Iowa possibly going blue is going to be up there with “Dewey defeats Truman” in terms of political misfires. She severely underperformed with men and Latinos, especially Latino men. Which means this: 8-10 million people couldn’t stomach voting for Trump, but they’d rather passively hand over the country to Trump vs. voting for a black woman. Whether the problem they have is the fact that she’s black, female, or both is irrelevant. But the message they sent was clear. “We don’t want Trump, but we’d rather step back and just let Trump take the country rather than vote for her.”
The problems with bigotry in this country go much deeper than some people are willing to admit, and Harris just found that out the hard way. As far as the voting base is concerned, voting for Obama was a mistake that they will not repeat again, and they just proved that by handing Trump everything he wanted on a silver platter instead.
We can’t even say that it’s an outsized minority any more. A majority of the people in this country just spoke up and said that they either want the racism and bigotry or are at least willing to put up with it.
Trump won the election not because Democrat voters said “Trump!”, but because they said “Not Harris.”
Do not underestimate the allure of a man who offers you a boogeyman to blame all your problems on, while promising you that only he can stop it. That allure is very difficult for many people to overcome. One of the other problems with it is that even if they do see the consequences of their choices, it’s just as easy for Trump to convince them that those problems are the boogeyman’s fault too. It doesn’t have to make sense, and Trump doesn’t care if it does as long as it keeps the rubes in line and focusing their anger on anyone else but him.
This is a cult following. Any attempt to show them that their problems were caused by Trump will only cause them to MAGA harder.
Oh I’m not saying he gives half a shit about them. But pardoning them is a gesture that ensures that the 7100 people at his disposal knows that he has their back, while costing Trump exactly nothing. Trump won’t do it out of any care for the J6ers, but because he’ll still benefit from it.
How cute…you think that norms still apply.
Trump will self-pardon, say he did nothing wrong, and pardon the J6 rioters unconditionally. And the same Congress who spent the day in a basement fearing for their own lives will stand up and applaud, and the Supreme Court will rubber stamp it with one hand while fellating him with the other.
This is the Trump revenge tour 2.0. Trump does what he wants, and everybody just bends the law around it. Traditional norms are simply ignored. If you think it was bad last time, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
“Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda,” Walsh wrote on X (formerly Twitter).
In other words “Damn right we lied to everybody! Thanks, suckers!”
I guess there’s no need to even bother wearing the masks any more. Racism, misogyny and bigotry won the day. Handily. Republicans turned out in droves to sign up for more of it, and Democrats have said they’re willing to accept it rather than elect a black woman. At that point, why even bother hiding it. Everybody knows what it is, and last night they said in pretty decisive fashion that they either actively want it or are at least willing to accept it.
We did this to ourselves. Trump made some small gains, but Harris underperformed Biden by roughly 10% or so. That means millions of Democrats sat home instead of voting for Harris, which also cost the Democrats some House and Senate seats downballot due to the lower turnout. There was no election fraud. This was a free and fair election. Trump won the popular vote. There are no excuses this time. We. Voted. For. This.
8-10 million Democrats stayed home. I don’t care if you’re “protesting Gaza”, or if you’re a closeted bigot who would rather sit out than vote for a black woman. Or whatever. If you stayed home rather than vote for Harris, you voted for this. In the words of Rush, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice”. And you made that choice knowing it was a de-facto vote for Trump.
The GOP had a damn good night last night. And they couldn’t even wait 24 hours before cramming it right down our throats. They couldn’t even wait 24 hours to take the mask off. Give it a couple of days and I figure the national abortion ban will be the next thing they don’t bother trying to lie about any more. Why bother trying to hide it? We already said we’re cool with it.
Oh, something is going to trickle down alright…
I’d be willing to bet that sales of Trump’s watches to overseas buyers will skyrocket. Gee, I wonder why that is…
decided by a court of judges whom he mainly picked
and who have already ruled that he is all but immune from prosecution.
Disagree. Pardoning the J6 rioters now “proves” that he “has their back.” That way, if/when he needs another group of rioters to be at his beck and call, they’ll gladly oblige. Especially if he pre-pardons them.
You missed a few.
And it proves that the racism is just as deep in the Democratic party. Millions of Democrat voters actively chose to stay home rather than vote for a black woman over Donald Trump. Millions of Latino men voted for a man who openly hates them rather than vote for a woman. They may not necessarily like Trump, but they actively chose to stay home and allow him to rise back to power instead of vote for a black woman.
They may not be as willing to be out in the open about it, but there are clearly some pretty damn racist Democrats out there.
We can no longer hide behind the excuse of “the electoral college”. We can no longer say that Trump did not win the popular vote. Trump won the Presidency, retook the Senate, and are poised to retain the house. Progressive candidates and initiatives either underperformed or failed nationwide. A majority of voters nationwide saw everything that came with a Trump presidency and a MAGA agenda and said “Yes. We want more of that.”
We are not better than this.
I disregard downvotes entirely. any kind of reputation system like upvoting/downvoting quickly devolves into “I agree”/“I disagree” immediately, with the “I don’t want to hear it even if it is true” people being a part of the latter.
Here’s the thing. All of that’s for show.
Part of the problem is that the attacker generally…well…attacks first. By the time the snipers and drones even realize something’s going on, people are already dead and scrambling and the damage has been done.
If a lone-wolf attacker, especially one smart enough to keep his big mouth shut and not look for “how to make big bomb” on his phone, wants to attack, there is absolutely no way to stop them. None. Checkpoints are really just choke points where a whole bunch of people are standing there in a nice, little easy-to-attack group waiting to go to the next checkpoint. Their mission was successful and the damage they inflicted was done before you even realized what was going on . You may be able to pick him off before he does more damage (assuming he didn’t just kill himself in the blast), but the victims are still dead and the message has still been sent.
The ironic part about all of those soldiers and the razor wire and the guns and snipers and stuff is probably having the exact chilling effect that they were trying to avoid in the first place. I don’t care who’s there to protect me from whom. It becomes a question of “You’re going to protect me from them? Well who’s going to protect me from you?” Two people with big guns fighting over supposedly protecting little ol’ me who wants none of it is a classic case of two wolves and a sheep debating what to have for dinner.
Unfortunately for them, you can’t make it legal retroactively by changing your story.
gestures broadly at Trump’s entire presidency
Uh…wanna bet?
Because people were unwilling to vote for a black woman president. It’s that simple.
This tells me that it wasn’t the policies. People just didn’t want Kamala Harris. Maybe because she’s black. Or Indian. Or a woman. Or a former prosecutor. Or some combination of the above. But whatever the reason was, people felt so strongly about saying “Not Kamala Harris” that they stayed home knowing full well they were de-facto voting for Trump in the process.
Trump didn’t “win” this election, in that he got virtually the same votes he got last time. Kamala Harris lost this election because Democrats sent a very clear message that they are so against Kamala Harris that they were willing to hand the Presidency and the entirety of Congress instead of voting for her. This wasn’t just a loss. This was a “Fuck YOU, in particular” sent right at Harris.
I firmly believe it was a combination of her race and male voters’ unwillingness to vote for a woman under any circumstances.