Skavau
Piefed.social Staff
Community owner of !television@piefed.social and !obscuremusic@piefed.social
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Legit question: Do you oppose any and all moderation, and quality of life tools to that end for moderators and/or instance admins?
The tools for stopping bad behavior can be used to stop any behavior.
Not really. Do you know what the tools are specifically? They’re just isolating the behaviour of new users for instance admins to catch tendencies often presented by spammers, trolls, bots and AI posters. There’s nothing baked in that can specifically target a specific group.
There already are various lemmy instances known for partisanship moderation without any specific tools.
Just confirming. I don’t see that as a bad thing though. The instance tools are designed to make it easier to catch spammers, trolls and AI posts.
"Alright, it doesn’t do any defederation, this function just controls what the api reports. It will list which of those four instances the instance is defederated from but that doesn’t look like it is actually used anywhere to do something…let me grab you links here is where piefed digests this api endpoint to populate the instance_chooser table, and the defed_list field isn’t actually used at all
Piefed provides instance owners and admins with more tools to catch bad behaviour, that’s absolutely true.
No, I don’t run an instance myself personally. I can see the defederated instances in the admin toolbox though. I’m not going to purge them all briefly just to experiment. But I don’t believe piefed.zip has any servers they refuse federation with (I can ask demi if he actually does defederate with anyone either on lemmy.zip or piefed.zip), and given the inclusion of lemmy.ml in that list - I suspect it doesn’t work like that in the first place if you were to do so.
Also, this is regarding the instance chooser in the code.
Okay? And as I’ve told you, there are active Piefed instances THAT ARE FEDERATED WITH HEXBEAR, LEMMYGRAD AND HILARIOUSCHAOS. I’ve never heard anything about the system automatically re-applying those instances in the event of an instance wiping all preset defederations. Lemmy.zip, and thus Piefed.zip has no defederation and they currently federate with those instances.
Notably, lemmy.ml is listed there too - which piefed.social does not defederate from, much less anywhere else.
Piefed has a bunch of tools Lemmy doesn’t have: Flairs, Hashtags, Custom Feeds (Private and Public), Scheduled Posts, Combined comment sections for crossposts, Emote Reactions, Events, Polls
Like 80 or so are also defederated.
Afaiu if you try to 100% federate by having no defederated instances, this overrides and defederates from these 4 again.
How would you know this at all? You run a Piefed server, have you?
Why are you trying to lecture me about how Piefed must work when you’ve never run or looked at Piefed from an admin perspective?
Yes, they’re defederated by default (along with lots of other instances) but a piefed instance admin can remove them.
You do know that piefed.zip and anarchist.nexus removed it, and federate with hexbear and lemmygrad.
No, it doesn’t. A piefed site admin can change those defederations.
It doesn’t work even if he wanted it to. Rimu himself didn’t even add it. He’s not the only contributor to the code.
Moderators of a community can kick you from a community, which unsubscribes you from it, and does not notify you.
Kindly pass this on, but this is actually defunct code that is not actually functionally active on Piefed.
Mostly everything else being complained about is objecting to Piefeds attempts to weeding out spammers, trolls and AI spammers with arguably punitive detective functions - but the purpose is to mitigate that.
Skavau@piefed.socialto
Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world•What was the most under rated British TV show ever for you?English
3·1 day agoNot within the UK. It’s pretty well known in regard to UK sketch comedies here.
lemmy.zip if I recall has a sort of soft-block in that new users are warned about those instances and offered to block them. I was told about 50% of lemmy.zip users block them.
Then there must be a bug.
Yes, it’s a contradiction with how lemmy handles the block function vs. how piefed currently handles it.
On the other, PieFed blocks trans related words as community names by default.
That was removed. Are you referring to 196?
Also, no it doesn’t. That was in referenced to an auto-federation function. Communities can still be made manually and federated manually.
Some of your code review is not understanding that Piefed handles things differently. So in the context of blocking, if someone blocks you on piefed - you simply can’t reply to them anymore. This isn’t out of sync with how many services operate. Now Lemmy does not operate like this, but the disconnect between how Lemmy and Piefed handle it cause discrepencies like this.
if your reply contains a blocked_phrase, it won’t accept the comment.
This code exists, but is unused to my knowledge. Certainly for Piefed.social.
I also do not see this as inherently bad as it can be used to stop slurs.
If your account is created_very_recently and the reply contains an em dash (—) it sends a notification to the admins
This is anti-AI checking functions. Most of the other things you refer to generally here within the code are simply mitigation tools against spam, trolls and AI posters.




















I didn’t make a statement, I just asked you a question - trying to see where you’re at regarding moderation in general.