There weren’t enough third party votes to swing the election. Trump won the popular vote. Stop blaming leftist for the country moving right. It’s stupid.

Oh no, is Lemmy going to be seen as two anti-nazi? WTF kind of take is this?

28 and same. A lot more millennial energy here than Gen z. Honestly Lemmy feels like 2012 reddit to me so I assume it’s mostly the same age group as me and a bit older. 🤷

Exactly so your shaming and blaming is even more useless now.

Wow! Shaming millions of individual voters sure worked in 2016 and 2024. I’m glad you’re still doing it /s

If this is a joke, I apologize for clarifying but the Republican is listed as Trump for both of those races because the Republican nominee was Trump in both those races. They’re not just calling all Republicans Trump LOL

See this is where your train of reasoning is stupid and pointless. You’re blaming and shaming millions of individual voters, most of which will never read your comments and the ones who do won’t get a shit what you think 😘

Instead of trying to alter the individual behavior of all those people, maybe we should just give them what they want to vote for instead. But hey it don’t matter democracy is over.

Blaming indiviguals for not wanting to vote for a pro-genicide candidate works so well. Totally helped us win 2016 and 2024.

Here’s the real issue. The Dems would rather be moderate Republicans than actual left-wing candidates. They spent all their time trying to appeal to modern White wingers and modern right-wing are still vote for people like Trump instead.

No, I’m not saying that.

I’m seeing a lot of left-wing. People will not turn out to vote if they don’t like the candidate. What really determines elections in the US or what did was election turn out. If turnout is high times when if turnout is low Republicans win. Turn out as low when Democratic candidate sucks and tries to appeal to right-wingers. Like we saw this election.

What you’re doing right now is the real culprit… punching left. I voted and I’m in a solid blue state so my electoral votes would have went to Kamala regardless but you’re not going to get that and I guess it really doesn’t matter cuz you’re never going to have a chance to vote in real election again anyway.

Dems punched left instead of right… Enabled a genocide and lost the support of their base.

Wow! What a great campaign /s

I voted so I’m sure you won’t mind hearing from this leftist. The problem isn’t people who didn’t vote. The problem is how the Democrats ran their campaign. They continue to punch left to try to appeal to moderate right-wingers who will never vote for them!

Instead, they should have punched right and tried to appeal to their base on the left. Even the “scary far left people” like me.

How to do that? They should have come out against the genocide in Israel instead of sicking the police on the fucking protesters.

But sure blame random individuals and what they chose to do. That sure sounds like The first step in fixing a large structural problem. /s

Not that it matters anyway, we won’t be voting again not for real anyway.

Nah you be assuming lol

I never said Bernie… That’s why you have to insert him in () to make sense. I’m talking about general sentiment. The push overall is to get people to vote for the lesser evil not make the Dems better. I don’t like that. 🤷‍♂️

I think you should assume less stranger. Glad you stopped the friendly fire lol

Take a deep breath

I don’t know what you think my positions are but you’re wrong. I am a socialist. I’m not in a swing state so I did vote third party but I would never dream of telling someone in a swing state of doing the same I would tell them they have to vote for Kamala.

I’m not talking shit about Bernie Sanders, I know he has made attempts to be on the right side of this issue but because he does not have support from his party he’s been unable to. I’m simply lamenting the fact that our political system is so un-nuanced and so shitty that we have to pick between two genocide enablers for the highest office in the land. And that even the better party is pro-genocide. That’s all.

I wish we lived in a political system that gave us enough power as the people to just have choices we actually want. Not this lesser of two evils bullshit that we constantly do.

You good?

I’m hoping this will be the year we see Texas flip blue. That would be beautiful.

Ok… Just saying it’s sad. Do you not think it’s sad?

Edit: actually no what the fuck is this reply? What fact don’t I care about? That Bernie agrees that this is fucked. What did I say that you take issue with?

Jesus Christ. I’m so tired of you genocide minimizers