

Also, just noticed, but the photo in the article is photoshopped. It’s in the Netherlands lol.


Also, just noticed, but the photo in the article is photoshopped. It’s in the Netherlands lol.


Doubt it’s that expensive. A locker can be made for like $500. But then you’re thinking of sheds with a simple lock. If you want something actually safe, you’d need a bike garage, and those can go up to like $4k a piece., or $5k if we’re counting cargo bikes.
To install them, you need labour as well. Assuming a $40/hr wage (could arguably be higher, depending on source), and a team of 8 people doing this for 8 hours a day, that’s $2,560 a day for labour in total. Two isolate the area, keep the area clean, two drill holes in pavement and breaks up stuff so the boxes can get in there, two transport the materials, and two assemble.
So, assuming 4 boxes a day of $5,000 each, so it’s now about $22,560 in total per day (wages included). Let’s assume $22,500 here per day. 500 lockers divided by 4 (amount installed per day) then yields 125 days (4 months, 3 days) to install all of them. Thus, that’s $2,812,500 in total.
But we’ll also need permits. The build plan needs to be assessed for transparency, environment, construction drawings, and the impact for the neighbourhood. It’s complicated, but let’s say $500 per balcony-like area (a balcony being about as big as one of those 3-bike boxes). So that’s $250,000 in total for the permits.
We then end up with a total cost of 3,062,500, or let’s call it 3,100,000. Because building often has additional hidden costs and maintenance, I’m assuming 1/3 extra, so it’s even better when it turns out to cost less. Then we end up with about $4,000,000, or $0.45 per NYC inhabitant.
Even if wages were $250/hr, it’d end up costing only $36,000 a day total (labour+construction), and thus totals $4,750,000 (including permit). Hidden costs and maintenance included, that’s $6,175,000 in total, a fraction of the $25,000,000 that is claimed.
This would mean all of the 500 boxes cost less than a dollar for all NYC inhabitants in total!
That while it gives much more freedom in the form of bicycles. There are no additional fuel costs, yearly checkups, and so on, and you get fitter and stronger, thus reducing your healthcare costs. Bikes literally make you richer.


As a Dutch person, my recommendation:
get a folding bike. They’re pretty cheap and useful primarily for biking a few km.
Alternatively, get an omafiets, make it look rusty and shoddy. Nobody wants to steal a bike that doesn’t look valuable. You can also twist how it steers, takes training to bike on it, but thieves will always fall.


Farmers don’t even benefit from it, the good ol’ tractor’s better for duty.


Not the first city to do so though, Harlem in that country banned them earlier.


Bij1. They’re as close to anarchist/council communist as it gets imho, pretty good stuff.
That would be the situation of De Ruijter in the Netherlands. It’s a “Koninklijke” (royal-approved) company, but the company’s ultimately owned by Americans. Which imho doesn’t make it very koninklijk!
Go to IRL places, find IRL painters, pay them.


Deaf/hard of hearing.


God, that’s hot. I want this.


We actually already have that since a while. It’s worked pretty well. There are gonna be a few changes, relatively minor but they do have some impact.
44% are in support of it, 33% has no opinion on it, and only 26% is opposed. Most flights are within Europe.
The expected impact is that most people will then decide to fly closer. There have been talks of making the public transit pass cheaper, which could then attract more people and quicken the recovery from covid.


Can only agree. Cars don’t belong in the city. They’re loud, polluting, take up unnecessary space, kill walkers and bicyclists, and so on.


Well, I dunno, I’ve lived there. But ok, just ignore it from someone who has experienced it themselves…


yeah mate, and you only mentioned the “waterfall” part afterward.
anyway, i might be crazy but calling others “cunts” while the others don’t insult you – who then is the obnoxious one? I ain’t calling names… nobody is attacking you, only your arguments.


you’re not in control of the supply lmao, the oil and coal companies are


i’m talking about you, just in case you didn’t know that


if like birdwing says that switzerland can do it in rural areas too, then others can do so too


this dude emanates mad toxic insecure energy fr


Your option sucks more though, you can’t go there if your fuel runs out. You have to pay and maintain your car for a cost much higher… also, that’s pretty damn rude bro.
More like, why does the street cross the bike lane like that.