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  • gewindestift@feddit.orgtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•103°F in Los Angeles all week
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    7 days ago

    Thanks for the lengthy reply. What worries me is not that people are not educated enough and use their own circle of trust to build their opinion. If it would be the case it could be solved with discussions, education and facts.

    Before the internet people (including academics) were aware what they had no idea about almost everything except their own field. Can you imagine John Doe talking about virology or climate dynamics in a bar in 1990? People would have had a good laugh about him. Today people think they are competent in a field after watching a few ragebait videos. The other thing is that once they picked a team they stick to it, admitting they were wrong is out of the question. If you correct them with facts it is considered arrogant. They are unable to keep a consistent standpoint even between single questions of a discussion. For example if they start with “climate change does not exist” and you then show them a temperature chart of the last centuries they immediately switch to “yeah, but it is not human made”. After asking where the carbon in the oil goes after oxidizing its “ok its human made but a few degrees wont be a problem” and so on.

    I don’t see how this can be countered anytime soon. Even the last summer here in Europe didn’t change much. People still vote the same parties. That is idiotic. At least believe your own eyes dammit…

    My hope is that the younger generations will not give in to the same bullshit. Unfortunately, until they are the majority we’re already in deep shit territory.

    I hope i’m wrong.

  • gewindestift@feddit.orgtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•103°F in Los Angeles all week
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    8 days ago

    No need to be sorry, i’m here to discuss, thank you for the reply :)

    So you see the billionaire problem as billionaries using their power to prevent necessary action. Ok, i agree that this is part of the problem.

    But the “peope are selfish idiots” part is much larger.

    The propaganda works because it is what people want to hear. And they want to hear that [climate change does not exist/wont be that bad/wont be worse than not burning fossils/but china/can not be stopped anyway] because they then dont have to change their lifestyle. And, at least in my bubble, “but the billionaires” (burning a lot more fuel with their yachts and private jets) or “but then only the rich can affort it” is another of these excuses.

  • gewindestift@feddit.orgtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•103°F in Los Angeles all week
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    8 days ago

    It baffels me how many here seem to think that climate change is a billionaire problem. Are you really serious about this? (genuine question)

    What makes you think that way? Its so obviously not true.

    Look around you. Imagine you can see CO2. Coming out of the cars around you, the airplanes overhead, trucks and cargo ships delivering your consumer goods, tractors and harvesters on the nearby fields. Are the cars Ferrairs? The planes private jets? The trucks and cargo ships transporting exquisite furniture? The farmers producing kobe beef?

    Must be comfortable in your world…