I mean, probably, yeah that’s a safe bet.

But I meant you replied to me and said one thing, and someone else replied to me saying the exact opposite.

But yeah, you seem to know what you’re talking about and I was curious. So thanks for answering my questions.

The two main Haredi (Ultra-orthodox) parties are significant part of Netanyahu’s coalition, and they have always had a disproportionate power compared to the Haredi population because almost all Haredi voters vote for them.

100% not trying to be a dick, because I appreciate the insight.

But is there a typo in there?

Or are you saying that the population will always just vote for the party because of shared religious beliefs…

Even though the party acts against those beliefs?

Like, I’m not trying to argue if that’s logical. I’m American, we have far right abrahmic extremists too that unironically support trump despite him pretty much doing the opposite of their religious guidance at every chance. No judgement on that, I’m not asking you to defend them.

I’m just asking if I’m understanding you right about what’s going on. Because I don’t understand how the Ultra Orthodox party can have “disproportionate power” over their own voting base.

Except in the context that they just vote for whoever their religious leaders tell them to without question or thought.

But also, a lot of shit has gone down since 2016… Those numbers might not be up to date

The vast majority of Hareidi Jews are Zionist

So as a larger community, they’re hypocritical and support the genocide in Gaza.

But some fringe members are actually non-violent and against the genocide of their neighbors?

That makes sense.

But the other person just claimed the opposite:

Most ultra-orthodox Jews are actually anti-zionists

Which is what confused me.

I’m confused…

Are they a politically powerful group like the Associated Press says?

Or a small minority with no political power like a random social media account just told me?

Military service is compulsory for most Jewish men and women in Israel. But politically powerful ultra-Orthodox parties have won exemptions for their followers to skip military service and instead study in religious seminaries.

So…

Their religious beliefs prevents them from having military service…

But not supporting a genocide…

And they can still violently attack people?

When you’re being invaded.

but didn’t Soviet attack subs wait outside the home ports for the SSBNs to try to stay on their tail, and they never managed to?

I wouldn’t be surprised.

But I know one of the most classified parts of a sub, is what the propeller looks like. Because then you could determine what it sounds like.

Knowing one was at X location at Y time is dangerous because then recordings can be compared to other periods and if anything stands out…

Then you can search for that.

It’s just a whole lot of risk in area we go thru ridiculous pains to minimize any risk, for no legit payoff.

There’s just no logic behind this move or rationalization of it.

There’s a lot of noise around a harbour, and unlikely to be opposition right outside.

Completely different than middle of the ocean.

Lets say you’re a firefighter.

You get called to 100 America Street.

You show up and that house is burnt down. It’s just smoldering ruins. But 102 America St is still standing, their garage is on fire tho

Would you try to save 102? Or spray water on the remains of 100?

By the time 100 is completely extinguished, 102 might be too far gone.

So I’m saying ignore the lost cause for now. And focus on saving the only other house on the street.

Let me know what we should do and I will be there.

I used to say “vote in the primaries”

But with the way the DNC has been acting, that’s not enough anymore.

The solution isn’t easy, and it won’t be quick.

But the first step is Dem voters having higher standards than “not a Republican”.

If you think it’s too late now, then it’s going to be too late in every future election.

The sad thing is climate change will take us out and cause more suffering than a true WW3 will ever do

Same solution.

Politicians don’t have to be terrible, they can look out for citizens. But unless voters have standards, we’ll keep settling for corrupt pieces of shit.

And don’t dismiss that they’d kill to know the location of a SSBN at any time under normal conditions.

Like, I don’t know how high of a federal clearance you e ever gotten, but literally everything about a SSBNs schedule is at least secret. The people on them don’t even know where they are 99% of the time.

Russia isn’t shooting down a nuke anyways, it doesn’t matter where it’s coming from, it’s hitting what it’s aimed.

It’s literally an intercontinental ballistic missile…

https://www.salon.com/2022/03/03/why-scientists-still-cant-figure-out-how-to-intercept-icbms/

America isn’t even confident we could shoot one of NK’s down. We could launch from a SSBN literally on the other side of the planet and absolutely nothing would stop it from hitting Moscow.

We gave up valuable intelligence for literally zero reason.

It shows that we’re irrational for doing it. Or even worse, that we thought Russia is so irrational that they needed to see it. Making both of us irrational.

The entire reason SSBNs are the threat they are, is you can only beat a ICBM by taking it out before it launches, and no one has a clue where the SSBNs are.

When were acting rational and want a show of force. We park an LHD or even Aircraft Carrier squadron off a coast.

Edit:

Like, if Russia happened to have sonar going in that area, and they just saw it surface…

They can compare sound signatures of that time period and may possibly isolate the distinctive sound of a SSBN. Something they’ve been trying to find for decades and could possibly lead to them being able to find SSBNs out in the wild.

This is a god awful decision that has potentially huge ramifications…

I get people wouldn’t know about all of this, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a big deal.

I’ve been paying attention for decades, hell, I was in the military. I definitely paid more attention to geopolitics back then. Because even idle threats and shows of force directly effected my life.

Shits not how it used to be. It’s a lot worse now. And people ignoring it just makes it keep getting worse.

I’ve never wanted to be wrong about anything more than WW3…

But I keep seeing all these articles that make it really look like WW3 is right around the corner…

Like, the entire point of SSBNs is to hide and no one knows where they are. Popping up just to flex is not a good sign. It’s trading the actual point of their existence (no one knows where our nukes are) for a show of force.

It’s not a rational choice to do this, Russia knows we have SSBNs all over the globe, they don’t need to actually see one and know where it is

So…

It’s almost a year old, people keep talking about 4chan, and the top posts of “all time” are homophobic and low-key racist…

https://tiblur.com/social/trending

Why would normal people go there instead of Lemmy? And why would homophobic racists go there instead of 4chan?

They don’t even have to default.

Most of those aren’t 0% forever. After a year or two, it’s just a regular credit card, with regular shitty interest.

It’s not money, cuz everything being done with in a product blows.

It’s about money, because the people making the shit products want to make money, not good products.

Capitalism always leads to “how shitty of a product will people still buy”

Israel and Hezbollah have been exchanging rocket fire, and Israel is talking about a ground invasion.

Hezbollah has a defense treaty with Iran, Iraq, Russia, and another ME country I’m blanking on.

If Israel invaded Lebanon in an attack on Hezbollah, that draws in Russia, and likely NK.

Israel and Russia are the two countries invading others that I believe are the primary drivers towards WW3. NK is just a long for the ride until/unless they launch an attack on SK.

But I think before that happens, we’ll solidly be in WW3. I think NK is onboard now, with the promise to be backed against SK later. No one is attack NK unless NK starts some shit, they don’t need a defense treaty.

They also forget about the 4+1 treaty.

If Israel expands to other countries, it would draw Russia in on their side, and the US on Israel’s

Which now also brings NK in. And we’ve got a multi front multi country war with two distinct fronts.

People might not call it WW3, but there’s a world war coming straight ahead, and as good of a movie as it was, I dont want to recreate the Titanic

You mean Russia and NK?

Or you meant the two countries in the middle of illegal invasions: Russia and Israel?

I hope everyone that keeps down voting me for talking about WW3 are right…

But man, it really is starting to look like WW3