Let’s bring this dream into reality and vote.

So…I’m with you. Fascists are bad, and we need to make sure that Fascists can’t hide their fascism when and if we get this country sorted and back on its feet. But I have questions!

• How do we ensure that we only catch Fascists? Your Magatmap seems to require an image, but no description.
• What stops me from cooking up an AI image of somebody I don’t like with Trump flags and swastika arm bands and getting them submitted to your system?
• What happens if this guy was a Trumpet in 2016, but is apologetic about it now and swears he’s no longer a trumpet?
• How do you ensure that innocent people not get caught up in your MAGAt Map?
• What are we supposed to do with the map afterwards?

Liberals have a good reason for questioning your methods here. We don’t want to become what we hate because when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares into you. We’ve seen it happen time and time again. And those of us who look at your suggestion wonder if we will become Nazis trying to fight Nazis your way.

Doesn’t harm the moneyed interests, so the NSA and the FBI can’t give a single shit about it.

I’m not going to speak on THIS poster, but…

What is this? A bank of phones caught click-farming in Thailand not too long ago. It’s very similar to Chinese and Russian bot farms – a handful of operators who are connected to a metric fuckton of phones, each signed into a fake account with tools to help these bad actors ‘get in character’.

You can usually tell troll farm accounts by their prolific post history. I have a job so I can’t stick around and talk politics all day, but these guys do, so they can literally post once every 18 minutes for over a month, day and night, without any interruptions. You might ask “don’t you have a job that you should be doing?!” when confronted with constant posting, day and night, but the answer is they DO have a job and that’s to push the memes and BS that they are pushing. Another way you can tell? Two replies to the same message – caused by the troll farm employees stepping on each other’s feet, and not properly handing off identitites to each other. Rule 3 says I can’t accuse Socialist Berserker of being one of these troll accounts, but Rule 3 doesn’t prevent me from correctly pointing out that this sort of operation exists, and how you can tell if an individual is a member of this operation. So…make your own minds up.

Thank you for saying this. Come November, one of two people will walk out with the victory: Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. Nobody else. We saw in 2016 and 2020 that the Shitgibbon can get LOTS of votes. We had to put up 7 million more votes than they did to win, and it was STILL close. Vote. Get your friends to vote. Get your friends to get their friends to vote. And help as many strangers who are voting Blue to vote as possible.

Nothing should stop you. Harris got this in the bag? No. She doesn’t. Go vote. Trump’s got no chance to win? No. He does. Go vote. Swifties coming out en masse and you don’t need to worry? No. Trump’s got fans of his own and you should always worry…and go vote. Go vote to counter every useful idiot and Republican Troll and Russian bot out there who has convinced a Greenie to do the stupid thing and vote third party.

Team Red doesn’t deserve sportsmanship. Run that score up nation-wide. Check your registration deadline NOW and check your registration today, and repeat this check at the last day to register to vote. If you don’t show up in the roles, you need to register. Screenshot that too so you have evidence you were registered to vote. Make sure you have your ID ready and understand all the hoops you have to jump through. Numerous organisations exist to help you:

• https://turbovote.org/
• https://www.fvap.gov/
• https://www.democracy.works/
• https://vote.org

Don’t let anything get between you and voting Harris in the upcoming election.

Lols. Persistence pays off, eh?

Hi. Let me explain my downvote to you, 101.

When you post an article, you get a screen that looks like this:

In that form, you can submit the title as is, or add more context, in the Title field. For instance, you could have given the full title, including the subtitle:

This would have made your post clearer.

Alternatively, in the Body field, you could have included a few lines from the article.

The claim was shared on Russian state-run media Sputnik’s Chinese-language Weibo on Sept. 11, 2024.

“Harris wore the Nova H1 Audio earrings during last night’s debate with Trump,” the claim reads in part. Sputnik cited “American musician Jonnie King” to back its claim.

-and-

A photo comparison between the earrings worn by Harris during the debate and the Nova H1 shows they differ in shape. In particular, the metal portions of both earrings show a major difference.

-and-

Under the debate rules issued by ABC it is forbidden to use props or pre-written notes.

However, ABC did provide pen and paper for each candidate’s use during the debate.

…would have made great fodder for the body of your post.

Either way, and I suspect you would have gotten better reader engagement. Let’s not reward bad journalism and bullshitconspiracy theory factories, please.

Edit: A word.

Oh, you can change your presentation, here, on the Internet, where the Men are Men, the Women are Men, the Children are FBI Agents, of course Socialist Berserker isn’t part of the conclusively proven Russian and Republican mission to siphon away votes from Harris so Trump can steal it, and nobody, and I mean nobody knows I’m a cat? SHOCKED, I tell ya! SHOCKED! 🤣

Fortunately you’re not a moderator and don’t get to say what is and is not allowed. Rule 3 does allow us to say that Muslim Americans, or indeed anyone else, who votes Third Party or stays home as morons. We just can’t call you (and you can’t call us) morons directly.

Dear reader, we got the Shitgibbon in 2017 because a very small fraction of our voters in each of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania (1.07% in MI, 0.81% in PA, 1.04% in WI) defected to the Green candidate. These states were lost by a narrower margin than the number of voters who voted Stein, allowing Trump to run roughshod over the country for 4 years, being a Russian Asset and damaging the fabric of our nation’s norms, making the place a worse place. It doesn’t take a lot of voters, and yes, I am worried that some Lemmy voters will read the trip this poster is posting and decide to give Stein a chance, like those voters did in 2016.

I can’t call this guy a moron because Rule 3, but I can say ‘if you vote third party in this election with what’s at stake, you’re a fucking moron’ as a general statement. Please make the smart choice. Don’t listen to this … poster.

Oh man, what did you do? I’d LOVE to get blocked by these … people!

Dear reader, look close at this poster’s words. They deliberately misread a statement that I think this poster will disappear after election day, mission successful or not, because after Election Day the die has already been cast. I’m sure they’ll pop back in here, possibly with a new account, starting some time in 2027, assuming we have elections if Trump wins, to spew the same bullshit in order to peel off votes from the Left again so the Right once again has a shot of stealing it and forcing Project 20252028 down our throat. But of course the poster misreads this into believing that I’m trying to get him shut down.

• I have not reported his posts once, despite my clear belief that he’s skirting the rules and is actively reporting us, getting us muzzled for even minor infractions of the rules.
• I do not have the power to make this poster’s posts disappear. Even if I did, I wouldn’t, because this bullshit needs challenging
• In fact, like many other people this poster is attacking, the only thing I’m doing is repeatedly pointing out the visible and glaring flaws in this poster’s reasoning.

Folks, voting third party is stupid. I can say that under Rule 3. If you cast your vote for anyone but Kamala Harris, you are an idiot. I can say that under Rule 3 as well, though it’s a bit murkier as I might be considered as attacking a poster (hopefully the ‘if you do x, you are y’ construct helps). All these Muslim voters falling for the Third Party bullshit are gonna get themselves Project 2025’d right into a concentration camp and are blathering idiots if they do that. I can say that under Rule 3.

Don’t be the blathering idiot by listening to this…poster (yes, I have MUCH stronger words I want to use, but…Rule 3…). If your vote wasn’t important, there wouldn’t be massive operations by Team Red, Team Russki, and Team Useful Idiot to get you to waste it. In the Presidential Election, one of two people will take the Oath of Office next January: Kamala Harris, or Donald Trump. One of them will be another wishy-washy pseudo-Liberal with a long history of toeing the line of American ‘best practice’, who will continue to support Israel, favour corporations when they think they can get away with it, do more lip service to progressive causes than actual action, and use the other party’s bad behaviour as cover for their own. The other will be a hard-core Conservative who will take pride in tearing down Progressive ideals, who will reverse the gains Women, Gays, Minorities, and Transgendered People have made over the past 20 years, who will expel the very Muslims that are complaining about Palestine, who will reset the American ‘best practice’ into something that more resembles North Korea or Russia, who will shut down any criticism of the new normal as ‘woke’, and who has an action plan set to go DAY ONE if he wins that will make this country into a Conservative Nightmare.

Third Parties can’t win. Period. You’d literally have to convince every single Democrat to vote for Jill Stein world wide to get Stein in office with how bitterly divided this country is. Miss 25k voters in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, and Kamala Harris would be a spoiler for Jill Stein. I know this. You know this. Team Red knows this. Team Russki knows this. Team Useful Idiot knows this. Hell, Mr. Berserker here knows this. Between our antiquated Electoral College and our equally antiquated First Past the Post, NOWHERE in the USA, even Maine and Alaska, is it safe to split your vote. And the consequences for getting this wrong are so high. We warned you in 2016 that if you didn’t hold your nose and vote Clinton, we’d find out how bad Trump really is. Look at 2017 through 2020. Remember the anguish of watching Trump win and the utter Chaos Clown Show that ensued. It was fucking Halloween those entire 4 years, and let’s get frank, Biden’s struggles were directly because of that 4 year Chaos Clown Carnival.

And the Head Chaos Clown himself is back. And much like 2016, the usual suspects are out en force to shove their BS that you shouldn’t pick the lesser evil. Don’t buy the bullshit. Listen to us. You didn’t listen to us (well, them because I was one of you and stayed home after buying Nader’s bullshit about Both Sides Bad…) in 2000 and look what happened. The Afghanistan debacle, the Iraq mistake, Katrina, and one hell of an economic recession laid at the Cowboy Dunce’s feet. You didn’t listen to us in 2016, and look what happened. Scratching Climate Change from the government records, utter chaos, the Afghanistan retreat debacle (this is on Trump, Biden just followed the agreed upon plan on the notion that ripping the bandaid off was a good idea), the completely chaotic mishandling of the pandemic including firing the pandemic team ahead of time, and the resulting economic malaise, and the constant Chaos Clown Circus. Don’t make those mistakes again. Because Trump has promised us it will be worse this time.

If you live in Maine or Alaska, you can pick Third Party candidates for everything but President. The Electoral College still requires you to pick Harris if you don’t want Trump. But everything below? Your vote for the Green or Socialist or Constitution or Libertarian candidate won’t result in the Chaos Clown getting in as long as you mark the Democrat above the Republican in your ranking. Hell, mark the Libertarian, Green, and/or Socialist above the Dem on your ballot, as long as the Dem is marked above the Rep in your ranking. That’ll ensure the Chaos Clown Circus is not allowed to set up in 2025.

Thanks for reading!

Yeah, we have to play nice because Rule 3 compels us. It sure seems like Rule 3 is cover and protection for these posters and a kugel to silence our criticisms of them. But the best wordsmiths among us can still call these posters out while staying in the letter of Rule 3, even if not the spirit. Thanks for calling out this poster’s nonsense for what it is, lies designed to get Trump elected.

Good for you! Why don’t you head over there. A little echo chamber of your own creation, waiting for you to diss the Dems as much as you want without me coming to fact-check you or call you out on your bullshit. And you’re even welcoming to Republicans! Not that any of that was a surprise to me because you’re busy doing the Republicans’ jobs for them over here.

But know this. I’m not going to try to shut you down or shut you up here. I’ve like only reported a single post of your ilk over here, and that was for calling Dems murderers and genociders while getting my posts shut down. I’m just going to call you on your bullshit every time I see it. That’s it. Have a nice day.

I don’t know what you mean by this either. Are you saying we shouldn’t be civil and that namecalling should be allowed?!

Can’t speak for shani66, but I can speak for myself. The rule says we only have to treat other members with good faith and respect. I personally think this rule is flawed. Respect is earned, not compelled. ‘Respect’ that is compelled is not respect at all. I still hate your guts, even if I’m forced not to express it in the way I want to. I think you are dishonest. I think you’re not here on good faith. And I know with certainty that there are bots and paid actors trawling these forums, spewing repeated nonsense to distract us and peel votes off our coalition so that their actual favoured candidate, Donald J. Trump, can win. Rule 3 says we can’t call those users out, at least not directly, which harms this community and allows the alt-right to spew its bullshit. But those are the rules, and it helps keep people who have legitimate criticisms from being lumped in with the troll accounts and the bots and the other bad actors.

Note, however, that the rule EXPLICITLY ALLOWS disrespectful commentary towards subjects of the article.

It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative).

Translated for you, this means that yes, we can absolutely call Muslim Americans voting third parties or staying home because Biden and Harris weren’t liberal enough for them a bunch of morons, because that is the subject of the article. I just can’t call you an idiot and a moron for voting third party because…

It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members.

The biggest flaw of these two rules? It’s OK for people like you to come in and collectively call us a bunch of murderers and genociders for supporting Biden as long as you don’t individually call us out. And you’re 100% here abusing every inch of that, while trying to literally muzzle us with the rules on topics you don’t agree with.

Sorry, ‘friend’, we’re not here for that. We’re going to keep calling you on the BS you’re spewing here until you hopefully disappear after election day, following the rules as closely as Jordon Lund requires us to to keep our comments visible.

THANK YOU

Yeah. I have and still do call our elections out as a Donkey Pee vs. Elephant Dung contest. You’re given two choices for what you’re gonna eat – a steaming mug of donkey pee, or an elephant shit sandwich. Pick well, because you don’t get to decide what you alone eat. The entire community will be served the same meal. I’d rather neither, but my desire for ice cream won’t matter because for some odd reason, this country prefers the excrement in an evenly divided line between the types of excrement.

Even in the best of times, I’d prefer the pee to the poo, because you can wash that out with a stiff alcoholic drink, but today, the elephant has gotten really sick, and your choice is basically donkey pee or a pile of diarrhea with two mouldy slices of bread buried in it, with a side of jackboots to your neck. You have to be an idiot to try to pick icecream in that situation, so I’m taking the donkey pee.

This horrific mental image brought to you by the Hidden Catboy. 🤣

No, you really don’t support or respect anyone else’s right to an opinion. Otherwise you wouldn’t be shitting so hard on people’s opinions on Lemmy, despite being downvoted on most of your opinions and called out repeatedly. You’re here to force your opinion down our throat, and not for the purpose of enlightening us. There is another purpose here. One that has nothing to do with trying to convince an audience you stubbornly haven’t read. I won’t go further than that (thanks Rule 3) but I said what I said.

Makes you wonder…who is actually behind the keyboard? There’s not enough hours in the day for me to even begin to counter this poster as much as it posts. Thanks for keeping it honest, Fart. XD

The only problem with blocking people like this is that they get to say their unmitigated bloviating BS without being countered. I considered blocking all these ‘concerned third party voters’, but decided against when someone pointed out to me that all that does is let them spew their nonsense unchecked.

The truth is that third parties are bad, period, in a FPTP system.

It doesn’t matter who the third party is, or what they stand for. Three idiots voting for shiny distraction candidates in a 51/49 vote split from the 51 vote ‘coalition’ ensure that all 51 voters get whatever the 49 voters picked because 49 is better than 48 plus three third party votes. It’s even MORE important when those three votes enable Agolf Twitler to be elected into office and round up all the gays, Muslims, minorities, and whoever else dares step out of line of the new Right-Wing Authoritarian Dictatorship detailed in Project 2025.