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Cake day: July 1st, 2023

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  • 100% agreed.

    I am actually a vegan activist, so I am somewhat used to shaming people. Although that is never the purpose. The purpose is to stop people from exploiting animals (killing, breeding, enslaving, using for testing and entertainment) when in today’s world 99% of it is unnecessary. It is very cruel and also is a major factor of climate change.

    I digress, what I wanted to say is that this thing that you and I are talking about should have activists too. Money grubbing needs to be shamed endlessly. I just don’t know exactly how. I feel like going onto the streets with thousands of activists like I do with veganism, but I lack a clear movement, message and organization.

    I honestly don’t have a systemic solution, like with veganism, which may be the crux of the problem. I just believe people need to be held accountable for what they are or are not bringing to the world.

    Do you know of a movement? Perhaps degrowth?


  • I cringe everytime money grubbing is normalized. Bloomberg is now building an AI like chatGPT to do their forecasting. They are super proud of that, but instead they should be deeply ashamed. What value are they providing? People are just lining their pockets and other people applaud these people. This is a serious culture flaw.










  • There are exactly zero good scientific reasons to believe plants feel pain my dude. I’m not being close minded nor open minded, I am just being sensible. Being “open minded” about anything without any solid justification isn’t being open minded, it is being naive. Are you going to call me close minded for not believing purple swans exist? We didn’t use to know that black swans existed, so maybe purple swans exist? I believe just as much in that plants feel pain as I believe in that santa exists, which is effectively nil.

    To quote the website I found (doplantsfeelpain.com):

    “We consider the likelihood that plants, with their relative organizational simplicity and lack of neurons and brains, have consciousness to be effectively nil”. That is not entirely zero, but for all intents and purposes zero.

    This is not only based on non-extrapolation, but also based on our knowledge of consciousness, feelings and pain.