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Cake day: June 4th, 2023

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  • TBH, this is a risk for all “value” devices that don’t have to pass NA/EU electrical certification. No cert means the cell can be whatever part was cheap and alright enough. Longer term reliability without specific testing isn’t obvious. Every now and then I fall into the rabbit hole of trying to remember all the different devices with potentially questionable cells. The occasion today is likely to trigger another sweep.










  • B350 isn’t a very fast chipset to begin with

    For sure.

    I’m willing to bet the CPU in such a motherboard isn’t exactly current-gen either.

    Reasonable bet, but it’s a Ryzen 9 5950X with 64GB of RAM. I’m pretty proud of how far I’ve managed to stretch this board. 😆 At this point I’m waiting for blown caps, but the case temp is pretty low so it may end up trucking along for surprisingly long time.

    Are you sure you’re even running at PCIe 3.0 speeds too?

    So given the CPU, it should be PCIe 3.0, but that doesn’t remove any of the queues/scheduling suspicions for the chipset.

    I’m now replicating data out of this pool and the read load looks perfectly balanced. Bandwidth’s fine too. I think I have no choice but to benchmark the disks individually outside of ZFS once I’m done with this operation in order to figure out whether any show problems. If not, they’ll go in the spares bin.



  • I put the low IOPS disk in a good USB 3 enclosure, hooked to an on-CPU USB controller. Now things are flipped:

                                            capacity     operations     bandwidth 
    pool                                  alloc   free   read  write   read  write
    ------------------------------------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----
    storage-volume-backup                 12.6T  3.74T      0    563      0   293M
      mirror-0                            12.6T  3.74T      0    563      0   293M
        wwn-0x5000c500e8736faf                -      -      0    406      0   146M
        wwn-0x5000c500e8737337                -      -      0    156      0   146M
    

    You might be right about the link problem.

    Looking at the B350 diagram, the whole chipset is hooked via PCIe 3.0 x4 link to the CPU. The other pool (the source) is hooked via USB controller on the chipset. The SATA controller is also on the chipset so it also shares the chipset-CPU link. I’m pretty sure I’m also using all the PCIe links the chipset provides for SSDs. So that’s 4GB/s total for the whole chipset. Now I’m probably not saturating the whole link, in this particular workload, but perhaps there’s might be another related bottleneck.


  • Turns out the on-CPU SATA controller isn’t available when the NVMe slot is used. 🫢 Swapped SATA ports, no diff. Put the low IOPS disk in a good USB 3 enclosure, hooked to an on-CPU USB controller. Now things are flipped:

                                            capacity     operations     bandwidth 
    pool                                  alloc   free   read  write   read  write
    ------------------------------------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----
    storage-volume-backup                 12.6T  3.74T      0    563      0   293M
      mirror-0                            12.6T  3.74T      0    563      0   293M
        wwn-0x5000c500e8736faf                -      -      0    406      0   146M
        wwn-0x5000c500e8737337                -      -      0    156      0   146M