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  • It is just a logical statement. A theory must maximize data fitting and minimize assumption. You cannot beat a theory that fits all the data with only one assumption.

    Sadly we are not having a debate as I’m giving arguments and you are not willing to criticize them on a core level. I hope other people find this one sided conversation useful.


  • Where do you see belief in what I explained? I’m genuinely curious.

    It can’t be the observations as you can make them for yourself, and you cannot find a model that fits the data better with less assumptions as it already fits the data perfectly and has no assumption beyond “organisms make copy of themselves with mutations”

    Then what is it?


  • Flies are very different than humans, but they are built using the same building blocks and processes.

    It is not belief it is observation: humans are composed of cells that contain chromosomes. Genetic data is mixed with errors during reproduction (both with flies and humans) resulting in different characteristics in the individuals of the next generation (observable with flies and humans)

    Sexual attactiveness of individuals will depend on their genes and their environment (also based on observation), which will impact their number of offspring, effectively selecting some genes and discarding others.

    All of this is based on simple observation and you sée that belief has no place in this line of reasoning.

    Of course there is more to flies and humans than evolution, yet evolution is such a simple process that it applies to both! Nature is truly amazing







  • I disagree. Science is making models to explain the data and testing them. Whichever model fits best the data becomes a leading theory. There is no belief whatsoever.

    This aside, I agree with you that many people tend to mistake scientific theories for reality, they are merely good models. Thinking otherwise is belief.

    Let’s say the universe is a clock that we can’t open. Even if we make a perfect model that predicts the exact motion of the hands, it doesn’t tell us anything about what is inside the clock (it could be anything really). Belief is when you start believing your model IS what is inside the clock.



  • Try doing some simple physics experiments with pendulum and stuff. It is quite simple to set up and will make you use many different physics concepts.

    For quantum mechanics, I suggest diffraction and the double slit experiment that are quite easy to do with a cheap laser pointer.

    That way you can rediscover scientific models yourself!

    If you are not willing to try it, then you don’t really have legitimacy criticizing thé work of scientists.