I mean, we have actual data this time proving that it’s limiting attention spans and is incredibly addictive. This isn’t the classic right-wingers fearmongering over smoke and air, there’s genuine psychological issues being caused by the app.
We’re way past the point of censorship. TikTok is censorship. The private, black-box algorithm content feeds censor whatever isn’t profitable for their major shareholders under the guise that “it’s still there.” Except it almost never gets surfaced.
That fucking self-censoring algo-speak is disgusting. But every single twit who uses “un-alive” instead of just saying “dead” still has the option to leave and use any other platform on the internet. They choose to be fucked by TikTok and Instagram, they aren’t being forced to use these platforms.
I think there’s a pretty massive world of difference between blocking access to a mass misinformation machine operated by a hostile power that has notoriously used apps it controls to locate and kidnap foreign dissidents and a 1984 surveillance state.
I don’t know how we got to this point where millions of Americans think China is their friend but hate their own government for being complicit in a genocide. I guess the Uyghurs just aren’t marketable enough for people to care? The brutal crackdown on Hong Kong has left people’s goldfish memory? Or maybe, just maybe, the mass misinformation machine is doing its job.
It’s not a moral panic this time though, it’s a legitimate concern.
Nothing has ever produced these billions of sub-30-second, algorithmically curated dopamine blasts.
Video games were a moral panic because they “promoted violence” and TV was supposed to make you stupid, which, it kind of does depending on what you consume. They both required you to sit still and focus on something though.
There are kids who can’t sit through a movie without pulling out their phone because they’re just used to being onto the next thing in 10 seconds.
So you can bitch about it being a moral panic or whatever you want to do to make fun of people who think it’s a concern, but it’s very clear to me from seeing how damaging excessive screen time is on young kids personally that things like YouTube shorts and TikTok are actually super damaging in a number of different ways. They were right about phones, because they’ve facilitated the mass delivery of this content.
I’m sure they thought it wasn’t a moral panic last time too. You sound the same as the adults when i was a young person. Exactly the same. Everyone here does.
You need to ask questions of yourself, I mean, you can ignore the questions of yourself, but that is heading down the same road, but this time, it’s resulting in actual censorship of the things young people use instead of just a panic.
Is reels being castigated? Youtube shorts? They do the exact same dopamine microdosing and attention span buttfucking. The practises aren’t being addressed, or their deleterious effects - in fact it would be incredibly easy to ban what tiktok does rather than the app itself, but they’re not doing that. it’s a moral panic drumbeat that conveniently opens the door to fuck other social media.
Again with this, what was it last time. The mobile phones? Then the video Games? Then the movies and the TV? The rock music? The radio?
I mean, we have actual data this time proving that it’s limiting attention spans and is incredibly addictive. This isn’t the classic right-wingers fearmongering over smoke and air, there’s genuine psychological issues being caused by the app.
I hate Tik Tok as much as the next guy, but I think this could act as a precedent for future censorship.
We’re way past the point of censorship. TikTok is censorship. The private, black-box algorithm content feeds censor whatever isn’t profitable for their major shareholders under the guise that “it’s still there.” Except it almost never gets surfaced.
That fucking self-censoring algo-speak is disgusting. But every single twit who uses “un-alive” instead of just saying “dead” still has the option to leave and use any other platform on the internet. They choose to be fucked by TikTok and Instagram, they aren’t being forced to use these platforms.
I think there’s a pretty massive world of difference between blocking access to a mass misinformation machine operated by a hostile power that has notoriously used apps it controls to locate and kidnap foreign dissidents and a 1984 surveillance state.
I don’t know how we got to this point where millions of Americans think China is their friend but hate their own government for being complicit in a genocide. I guess the Uyghurs just aren’t marketable enough for people to care? The brutal crackdown on Hong Kong has left people’s goldfish memory? Or maybe, just maybe, the mass misinformation machine is doing its job.
We have actual data going back 30+ years that watching TV limits attention span in children and is also addictive.
Nobody gives a shit about that though. What makes tiktok so much more important?
It’s not a moral panic this time though, it’s a legitimate concern.
Nothing has ever produced these billions of sub-30-second, algorithmically curated dopamine blasts.
Video games were a moral panic because they “promoted violence” and TV was supposed to make you stupid, which, it kind of does depending on what you consume. They both required you to sit still and focus on something though.
There are kids who can’t sit through a movie without pulling out their phone because they’re just used to being onto the next thing in 10 seconds.
So you can bitch about it being a moral panic or whatever you want to do to make fun of people who think it’s a concern, but it’s very clear to me from seeing how damaging excessive screen time is on young kids personally that things like YouTube shorts and TikTok are actually super damaging in a number of different ways. They were right about phones, because they’ve facilitated the mass delivery of this content.
I’m sure they thought it wasn’t a moral panic last time too. You sound the same as the adults when i was a young person. Exactly the same. Everyone here does.
You need to ask questions of yourself, I mean, you can ignore the questions of yourself, but that is heading down the same road, but this time, it’s resulting in actual censorship of the things young people use instead of just a panic.
nah, it’s a moral panic.
Is reels being castigated? Youtube shorts? They do the exact same dopamine microdosing and attention span buttfucking. The practises aren’t being addressed, or their deleterious effects - in fact it would be incredibly easy to ban what tiktok does rather than the app itself, but they’re not doing that. it’s a moral panic drumbeat that conveniently opens the door to fuck other social media.
Those disn’t have algorithms and psychology baked in to lure you in