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    Like sure conditions for serfs weren’t great,

    They were abhorrent. You’re really playing semantics here, conditions were essentially slave-like just as, say, Cuba under Batista.

    built the wealth of europe

    No. Water power did, Europe has an absurd number of suitable streams for grain mills which allowed the creation of extensive trade, merchant, and scholar classes – as they could be fed. Which led to technological superiority which led to the capacity to roll over other nations (and the presumption that it was the right thing to do). Without that pre-existing wealth all that colonising would not have been possible.

    Where’s the lie? You guys think that’s a good thing.

    You’re accusing me of condoning or advocating genocide?

    • You’re accusing me of condoning or advocating genocide?

      You already told me to fuck off for pointing out that parts of Ukraine have been getting shelled by its own government for over 8 years, considering that response, yes that was my conclusion.

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        You already told me to fuck off for pointing out that parts of Ukraine have been getting shelled by its own government for over 8 years,

        No. I told you to fuck off for this:

        The Ukrainian state has been killing civilians indiscriminately in its two breakaway regions

        Yes, Ukraine has been shelling Russian positions in those regions for quite a while now.

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          Donetsk city has been routinely getting hit for years, it’s why the SMO started

          and again here you are cheerleading for indiscriminately killing civilians

          Yes, Ukraine has been shelling Russian positions in those regions for quite a while now.

          hitler-detector

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            it’s why the SMO started

            A resounding no. The worst collateral damage happened under Poroshenko, one of the reasons why he lost against Zelenskyy.