• WldFyre@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Don’t flatter yourself/them, inaction is infinitely easier than action. I don’t think the “don’t vote” crowd is good at suppression, I think they’re just dumb and lazy.

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      4 months ago

      As opposed to the “smart and proactive” people who vote once every four years and pat themselves on the back for a job well done?

      I’ve been doing that my entire life, but politics sure do seem worse now, don’t they?

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        4 months ago

        Worse than what? Then the 60s? The 70s?

        Go ahead and withhold your vote, I’m sure that will work out great. Everyone knows the Overton window shifts towards the people who don’t vote or participate in elections. The Republicans have shifted further and further right because the neo-nazis and alt-right fuckwads and gamer-gate idiots all banded together and simply didn’t vote.

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          Worse than what? Then the 60s? The 70s?

          Worse than they were when you started voting.

          Go ahead and withhold your vote. I’m sure that will work out great.

          Maybe instead of blaming the nonvoters, you could take a minute to understand their motivations so that you might be able to better convince them otherwise?

          Dunno, just seems reasonable to me.

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            4 months ago

            I understand their motivations, but their methods demonstrably and historically do not work, and actively harm the causes they care about. So again, go for it, I’m sure it will work out great. The other side has made progress by doing the exact opposite, and feminists famously campaigned to be able to vote just for some disenfranchised young people to realize the true path to change is…nothing.

            So reasonable lol

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              4 months ago

              Again, and please, please listen to me this time.

              • I’m not telling you or anyone not to vote.

              • I’m begging you to consider what arguments or incentives will actually be effective at convincing nonvoters to vote.

              This smarmy attitude and the reflexive dismissal of nonvoters as people who cannot be helped is counterproductive at best. Risking the further alienation of the people you’re trying to get on your side just to satisfy some need to feel morally superior.

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                4 months ago

                You can’t reason people out of positions they didn’t reason themselves into. Pointing out that the literally opposite strategy by the GOP got us here and that it is not grounded in reality is not some “smarmy” attitude lol

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                  I didn’t say anything about reason, this is rhetoric we’re talling about, and denying the reality that people don’t like being talked down to isn’t going to win friends or influence people.