• anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe
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    4 months ago

    There needs to be an open convention. NO one voted for Harris as President, assuming the job is hers is usurping the democratic election process. I could have sworn we were told we need to elect a democrat to preserve democracy

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      4 months ago

      You miss the part where many democrats are so terrified of the image that has been painted of Trump that they would vote for a resurrected Hitler if they were told he was wearing a blue button.

    • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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      4 months ago

      The party candidate selection process has nothing to do with Democracy.

      The parties themselves have nothing to do with democracy. There’s nothing in the constitution about Democrats or Republicans, or their parties.

      All the parties are is a group of people that agree to put one name forward for their candidate. How they choose the candidate is entirely up to them, it didn’t used to be done via state wide primaries, it used to just be a bunch of old dudes at a convention picking someone.

      The democracy part is that anyone is allowed to put their name on the ballot for president if they meet the basic criteria, usually a minimum number of voter signatures and a filing fee. This is done for each state they want their name to be on the ballot for.

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        4 months ago

        You are legally correct, and morally wrong. If we had ranked choice voting it would be an entirely different situation.

        As long as we are trapped in a two party system this is entirely unacceptable and frankly just cause for revolution.

        I find it both hilarious and infuriating how supporters of the Democratic establishment make this argument when it suits them, then turn around and chastise third party voters. If our only real choice is to vote for one party or the other, then we either have control over who gets nominated or we live in a thinly veiled oligarchy.

        • mean_bean279@lemmy.world
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          4 months ago

          They aren’t morally wrong. Just because something is a fact that they’re stating doesn’t mean they agree with it. Those are the rules of the game and they’re simply stating them.

          • Tinidril@midwest.social
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            4 months ago

            In the context they are offering a legalistic justification to a moral issue. The Democrats are not the party of democracy if they don’t, at a minimum, have an open convention.

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              4 months ago

              Mate, there isn’t enough time or words to even delve into this with you, but that’s not what morality is. Whether you agree with the current rules and legal system or not is not part of your morals when you’re simply stating the options legally.

              • Tinidril@midwest.social
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                4 months ago

                LOL, yeah. You definitely don’t have the words. I’m guessing you haven’t studied much moral philosophy. If it helps, I didn’t accuse them of being immoral themselves.