Green Party nominee Jill Stein is expected to use her running mate to tap into the growing anger at Democrats over their support for Israel’s war on Gaza.
I’m not “debating” you, I’m asking if you have anything to show for your party.
I know the supposed platform, and I know the presidential candidates. What I don’t know is why your candidate thinks anyone should give a shit about her when she’s nowhere to be found except when she’s deciding to run for president.
Either y’all aren’t doing anything worth celebrating or you’re bad at communicating your successes and both of those are pretty firm indictments of your ability to follow through on the national level with any of your stated goals. But that presumes any conviction in those stated goals, and again: I’m not sure I can think of any reason to think y’all have any such conviction.
I’m not “debating” you, I’m asking if you have anything to show for your party.
And I gave examples.
What I don’t know is why your candidate thinks anyone should give a shit about her when she’s nowhere to be found except when she’s deciding to run for president.
Well, I don’t have that issue with her. Nor do my friends who are voting for her.
Either y’all aren’t doing anything worth celebrating
there is not “y’all,” I don’t represent the party. I am simply voting for her. I can’t answer for the problems you seem to have with the party.
That’s outside my scope of expertise. They are the 4th largest political party in the US. I don’t have any control over their PR.
Brah, if you don’t like her, then don’t vote for her.
I think they were asking for actual green wins, policy or otherwise, not candidates who have run. I voted for Nader, fwiw, but I won’t be voting for stein
Yeah. That’s basically it. Demonstration of ground level impact and commitment. It’s difficult to imagine trusting a group with a national bureaucracy when they haven’t shown that they’re capable of that scale of operation. Unfortunately that capability matters more than the ideals.
Edit: but also it matters because it demonstrates the ideals in action in a tangible way.
Californians have elected 55 of the 226 office-holding Greens nationwide. Other states with high numbers of Green elected officials include Pennsylvania (31), Wisconsin (23), Massachusetts (18) and Maine (17). Maine has the highest per capita number of Green elected officials in the country and the largest Green registration percentage with more than 29,273 Greens comprising 2.95% of the electorate as of November 2006.[68] Madison, Wisconsin is the city with the most Green elected officials (8), followed by Portland, Maine (7).
You act like there has never been a Green politician that has won. Also, globally several Green Party members won some important elections in Europe.
I’ve not been acting at all, I’ve just been trying to clarify the question. Don’t confuse the two, I’m not attacking you, I’m trying to help clarify the disconnect that is here.
Uh huh.
I’m not “debating” you, I’m asking if you have anything to show for your party.
I know the supposed platform, and I know the presidential candidates. What I don’t know is why your candidate thinks anyone should give a shit about her when she’s nowhere to be found except when she’s deciding to run for president.
Either y’all aren’t doing anything worth celebrating or you’re bad at communicating your successes and both of those are pretty firm indictments of your ability to follow through on the national level with any of your stated goals. But that presumes any conviction in those stated goals, and again: I’m not sure I can think of any reason to think y’all have any such conviction.
And I gave examples.
Well, I don’t have that issue with her. Nor do my friends who are voting for her.
there is not “y’all,” I don’t represent the party. I am simply voting for her. I can’t answer for the problems you seem to have with the party.
That’s outside my scope of expertise. They are the 4th largest political party in the US. I don’t have any control over their PR.
Brah, if you don’t like her, then don’t vote for her.
I do, so I am.
I think they were asking for actual green wins, policy or otherwise, not candidates who have run. I voted for Nader, fwiw, but I won’t be voting for stein
Yeah. That’s basically it. Demonstration of ground level impact and commitment. It’s difficult to imagine trusting a group with a national bureaucracy when they haven’t shown that they’re capable of that scale of operation. Unfortunately that capability matters more than the ideals.
Edit: but also it matters because it demonstrates the ideals in action in a tangible way.
I guess it’s hard to do that when you don’t have enough power to do that?
Well I totally respect your choice to not vote Green Party based on your values.
But I’m voting for them, based on mine.
Californians have elected 55 of the 226 office-holding Greens nationwide. Other states with high numbers of Green elected officials include Pennsylvania (31), Wisconsin (23), Massachusetts (18) and Maine (17). Maine has the highest per capita number of Green elected officials in the country and the largest Green registration percentage with more than 29,273 Greens comprising 2.95% of the electorate as of November 2006.[68] Madison, Wisconsin is the city with the most Green elected officials (8), followed by Portland, Maine (7).
You act like there has never been a Green politician that has won. Also, globally several Green Party members won some important elections in Europe.
The question is not about elected NUMBERS.
I’ve not been acting at all, I’ve just been trying to clarify the question. Don’t confuse the two, I’m not attacking you, I’m trying to help clarify the disconnect that is here.