• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Where are all the centrists who insist that Biden is the most progressive president who ever drew breath?

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      1 day ago

      Here. He ran as a centrist, acted as a centrist, and pursued the most progressive policies of any president in my life, except maybe Carter

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        16 hours ago

        “Pursued” is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

        The Inflation Reduction Act is the biggest thing Biden got done. Centrists expect everyone to act like it’s the New Deal and the Great Society rolled into one. That ain’t holding water. We saw what we lost with BBB.

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      1 day ago

      I’m not a centrist but he’s absolutely been the most progressive president in my lifetime in terms of policy.

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        17 hours ago

        There aren’t any. But there is no shortage of centrists who want progressives to be happy with what makes centrists happy. They’ll outright lie and say that Biden is progressive.

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        16 hours ago

        Probably Franklin Roosevelt, though cases can be made for both Lyndon Johnson and Theodore Roosevelt.

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          Teddy was a rabid imperialist with a great fondness for eugenics. His anti-corruption drive had a small measure of success, and he founded the national parks system and passed the Pure Food and Drug Act. But he was a mixed bag.

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            3 hours ago

            I listed the only three presidents that could remotely be called progressive. They’re all mixed bags.

            Biden isn’t fit to be in the same paragraph as any of them. He’s a centrist. He sold weapons for an ongoing genocide. He was instrumental in passing the 1994 crime bill. He made sure student loans could not be discharged via bankruptcy. His treatment of Anita Hill was disgusting, but at least we got Clarence Fucking Thomas out of it. He has half a century of disaster in his wake. He made a big chunk of the mess that his simps praise him for pretending to make baby steps toward cleaning up.

            Biden is a centrist and nothing else at all. Calling him a progressive is insulting to progressives and to anyone you expect to be stupid enough to buy such unmitigated horseshit.