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      Is the argument here that China isn’t worthy of the United States’ cooperation? We here in the US need to get over ourselves and stop acting as if we have the moral high ground over everyone else. There are a lot of things about the US that are far from humane, and we do cooperate with countries that engage in far worse, often on our behalf. Our adversarial disposition towards China has nothing to do with human rights and everything to do with geopolitics.

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        To clarify, what you’re doing is “what-aboutism”. Asking China to be more humane is not a comment on anything but China being more humane.

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          They weren’t just asking China to be more humane, though. They were suggesting that China doesn’t deserve our cooperation because they are inhumane, which implies we have the moral high ground and is explicitly hypocritical. It isn’t whataboutism to point out hypocrisy.

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            There’s a lot of assuming, implying, and suggesting in that take. The original just said if they were more humane we would work with them.

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              You don’t at all see how that implies moral superiority? Or are you just giving them the benefit of the doubt?

              The problem is holding China to a higher standard than we hold ourselves to.

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            You brought up other societies as compared them to us. It’s the definition of what-aboutism, just read up on it again to make sure.

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      11 hours ago

      More like if they were willing to embrace capitalistic western values and bend over for America whenever we’re feeling frisky

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        Thinking that china isn’t capitalist just because the ruling party has communist in the name is funny

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          Never said they weren’t. Just that it doesn’t align with capitalistic western values.

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      Yeah more humane like Israel… America has been installing dictators all around the world for decades what are you talking about? You think America cares about humanity? You cant even birth a child without a $10,000+ bill.

      America cares about moneyyyyy and nothing more

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        We topple democratically-elected leaders because it suits our economic plans. People downvoting the above comment don’t know shit about history. And that’s because our schools don’t accurately teach it.