Summary
Steve Witkoff, Trump’s envoy, stated that Vladimir Putin has no intention of invading all of Europe, calling fears of broader aggression “academic.”
Witkoff expects progress in Ukraine-Russia talks, including a potential Black Sea ceasefire.
He acknowledged Russia’s view that occupied territories are rightfully theirs, citing disputed referendums.
The Kremlin hinted at more contacts between Trump and Putin than publicly disclosed, raising concerns among European leaders about a potential US-Russia peace deal.
“Russia will leave Ukraine alone if it gives up all Nuclear arms.”
“Russia only wants to lease the harbor of Crimea 'till about 2042.”
“Russia has no soldiers in Ukraine Donbas or Crimea regions, these Russian Veterans are on holiday, can’t you see that they wear unmarked uniforms?.”
“Russia did not shoot down Malaysian Air MH17, it is unknown why that specific mobile missile launcher was seen driving from Russia into Ukraine and back again after firing.”
“Russia started only a police action inside Ukraine to take out certain elements, should take about 3 days.” “Russia is Russia, Ukraine never existed and has no right to now.”
“Russia is not at war in Ukraine, it is Russia who was attacked.”“Russia does not want parts of Europe, the people of East Germany, Hungary, Romania, Czechoslovakia live in happy unison under the Warsaw pact and mother Russia’s bosom.”
“Trump and Musk will leave social security alone, privatising it is a ridiculous notion.”
“Trump is a president of law and order and respects the judicial branch.”Oh wait, how did comrade Krasnov get mixed in with this…
Oh fuck, Putin is definitely planning to invade all of Europe…
“no intention of invading all of Europe” means: They intend to invade at least some parts of Europe.
The whole REAL reason that Trump wants to possess both Canada & Greenland is so that between Trump & Putin, in a pincer,
… they can DESTROY Europe’s capacity to compete against them,
& then they get to be the only “kings” left in the West, carving-up all who they want…
So, some of Europe for Trump, some of Europe for Putin.
See?
They spoke factual truth … !
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Oh, shit, so he for sure is planning to invade Europe, then.
Next will be Moldova, then the Baltics.
Moldova seems a most likely target, indeed, however, I don’t know how could Russia logistically pull that off. Unless Trump makes Ukraine capitulate and disarm which is not unlikely at this point. Baltics are a different story as they are full NATO members.
It’s not that he wouldn’t like to, but how could he is another story.
Trump has already said the EU was made to harm America. Trump also dislikes NATO. So pretty sure he’d have little issue with it. Probably more depends on how long it takes Putin to get to Western Europe and how robust they, Western Europe, can make their MIC between now and then.
There are all sorts of possibilities between now and then so no telling how it all plays out.
The idea that Russia, a country with a GDP the size of the Benelux, could take on an economic block comparable in size to China, is simply ridiculous.
Russia hasn’t even been able to take down Ukraine, how could it ever be able to take down the entire EU?
Piece by piece, always both saying that those bits had always been Russian and that the surrounding nations have nothing to worry about.
That’s a lot of pieces ’till Western Europe, which was the scenario I was responding to. And, while I have very little faith in our politicians, they’re not complete imbeciles. An attack on an EU country will certainly lead to an even stronger push towards unification than is the case now already, with just threatening words (from Trump, though - not Putin).
Well, when the US puts its war machine behind the venture…
The scenario I was responding to implied the US would wait and see „how long it takes Putin to get to Western Europe”, at least that’s how I read it.
And the answer is: he wouldn’t ever reach Western Europe. Not in a million years. It’s simply fantasy.
Chinas also slowly taking over Russia, resources in siberia. Russia will soon be a hollowed husk
Well, they’re doing a pretty good job with USA.
They could Ribbentrop-Molotov Europe with the US and China I guess
In high-stakes meeting, Russia tells U.S. it isn’t planning to invade Ukraine
January 10, 20225:12 AM ET
He’s either a lying piece of shit or a completely fucking clueless idiot.
I don’t think that those are mutually exclusive options.
Fair enough.
So they are working on a new edition of the Molotow-Ribbentrop-Pact, but with the US as Germany and Europe as Poland this time?
And so we’re working on our own version of a Molotov something
The President should walk among the people without any security, because most of the people don’t want to kill him. So he should test that statement openly and freely, see what happens.
Putin’s favorite modern Russian Political Philosopher has written about Russia extending from Vladivostok to Lisbon and this has been repeated by various Russia politicians.
No doubt there will be some parts of Europe that would not be worth it for Russia even if they could invade them.
The thing protecting the rest of Europe from Putin’s ambitions is Russia’s military incompetence, Ukranian military competence, invetiveness and even their lives, and the superiority of European military hardware versus Russian hardware and the latter is severelly hindered by under investment and low levels of production.
Of course Putin, with Krasnov’s help, isn’t “planning” to invade Europe. It will just fall under his rule after he destabilizes it.
Just a little bit of Europe then?
just the tip
Well it’s not Europe you see it’s temporarily occupied parts of Russia, historically it belongs to Russia so really they’re just taking it back.
Same argument that China and Israel are using to annex Taiwan and Palestine.
After Napoleon, Russia was occupying Paris for a while. Ergo, Paris is old Russian territory.
Also, Novgorod was founded by vikings, therefore everything vikings ever held is old Russian territory.
In the end times of Byzantine (Eastern Rome), Muscovy bought the right to call itself a successor of Rome. Therefore, Spain and Morocco are old Russian territories. And Israel as well.
Socialism originally spread from the Russia. Therefore, all countries that have been socialist actually belong to the Russia. Yes: Angola, China, Laos, Venezuela. Alaska is old Russian territory, and is one unit together with USA. Therefore, Hawaii and Texas belong to the Russia.
Because 99% is still less than “all of Europe”, so…
Well, yeah.
Europe is continent sized piece of land. Russian tanks rolling into Moldova is a bit different than Poland, or Germany.
Different politically, militarily, and strategically.
Even then, I can’t see Putin biting off any more at this particular moment. Time will tell if Trump significantly eases sanctions to a degree that would enable him to speedily recapitialize.
Of course, I didn’t believe he’d actually try and take Kiev, so I’m not going to sit here and cosplay as a Kreminologist.
Stupid Orange Grifter & Rube Believes the Russian Psychopath’s Stupid Lie
FTFY
Neat.
Peace in our time.
Just make sure it’s a peace that doesn’t allow for further aggression.
As sure as Neville Chamberlain was when he said it.
Great. So he wouldn’t mind of the EU rearms its defensive capabilities a bit.
Not planning. Already planned.
…yet
