I posted the following: "I am trying to make a shower gel that has a scent but is not toxic to either humans or aquatic life. And I have a hard time finding anything for the latter. Essential oils and derivatives? Nope. Synthetic ones? Nothing. I could go the unscented route, but it’s going to be hard to sell. So, considering that most of you are better informed about this topic, is there a specific ingredient that I can use for a rose fragrance that’s truly non toxic? Thanks "
On fragrange, zerowaste and sustainability. The post got deleted by mods in a manner of minutes. What the hell is going on there? I am going to stay here for much longer since that place is turning very weird. Also, can anyone here actually help me find a fragrance ingredient that won’t kill aquatic life when poured down the drain? Thank you in advance
To me it was the toxicity. I posted a meme about “look how they massacred my boy” and the old and new DonkeyKong designs and got downvoted and mean comments. The site went to shit after the API-price increase and the only reason I’m still on there is that my hobbies aren’t on lemmy yet.
If have I had to guess… a combination of well meaning rules built up over time that no one actually thought out, chronically online weirdos corrupted by the little bit of power afforded by moderating (which seems common in online communities) and cabals of state actors who moderate multiple subreddits in order to control and direct the narrative.
On the other hand, with how popular reddit has become and with how many bots are out there, it might be worse without the rules.
I think some mods are overly jumpy with chemistry type questions because uninformed morons will confidently answer the wrong thing and the mods are afraid it will get someone hurt. That or the subs in question just aren’t geared for this kind of Q&A. You’d probably get better responses from a chemistry subreddit.
Scent compounds being potentially hazardous to some minor degree in their super concentrated form isn’t a huge issue, because that’s not how they’re going to be experienced and it’s hard to find anything that isn’t harmful in some quantity. The alchemist Paracelsus, who pioneered evidence backed approaches to pharmaceutical medicine wrote the old adage “The dose makes the poison.” Even water can kill you if you drink too much of it all at once, and pure oxygen is an extremely dangerous substance even though we need it to breathe.
That said, I happen to know a bit about chemistry and just did a bit of reading. It looks like rose oil comes in two forms - one produced by steam distillation, and one produced by solvent extraction. The one produced via solvent extraction is more common, more concentrated, and according to Safety Data Sheets (SDS) I was able to find, has more potential health hazards associated with it. The other form, known as Rose Otto, is produced via steam distillation and is less concentrated. This means you will need more and will need to adjust your formulation, but according to the SDS this is a pretty safe substance. If your concern is potential hazards of making your soap during manufacturing, then that may be a better option I guess. I still think that it’s fine to use substances that are toxic in quantities that will never make it into the final product.
Loving the reddit hate train here but to answer your question, there doesn’t appear to be any non aqua toxic rose fragrances. Even rose water can be aqua toxic. This is due to the fact that geraniol (the compound primarily responsible for a roses’ scent) is acutely toxic to aquatic life. Have you considered other light, floral scents OP?
Yup, just get the hell off Reddit. And Twitter. Both of those cess pools.
I deleted my Reddit account of, was it 11 years? More? Anyway, sometimes I miss being able to comment there whenever I come across someone kind, or some idiot. But then I think, boy, morally, I feel better not partaking. Lemmy is the future for now. I’ll abstain from the cancer.
X is where people I want to follow post unfortunately. If they posted on mastodon, I would use that more. As it stands, a lot of people and creators I want to keep up with are only on a few select platforms at the moment. Maybe that’ll change in time but I doubt anytime soon. Same situation with YouTube, I’d like to stop using that too but it’s the only place to find certain things (small example: individual magicians who sometimes perform on Penn & Teller also post their own videos on YT only.)
When people post on X I complete lose the urge to follow them. If you support X you’re complicit.
That’s wild, I would not be able to keep up with trends in the industry I work in as much if I isolated myself from everyone. But happy it works for you.
Understandable.
You go where you need to go sometimes. I don’t follow anyone on Reddit or Twitter that I can’t abstain from or get similar content. I guess I’m lucky.
This is one small example, but I get notifications on developer livestreams for new models and new API updates and feature releases. The OpenAI sub itself is not only too many hours late in publishing any of them, but it’s also only a fraction of the updates coming directly from the company itself. This extends to many other orgs and people I follow.
I’m a developer so I like to have quick access to new info to many frameworks and languages (and other lead devs that post updates.)
Just look at the subscriber count of those subreddits. Try to moderate that.
We left Reddit because of the drama. Dont bring it over here. Instead, just place your question on lemmy
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Uh oh… You showed empathy to animal life.
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Just fyi, most people came here to get rid of reddit. There are a few communities that revolve around reddit for those with nostalgia. Might be the best plae to ask as much as this community is about asking questions.
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Reddit doesn’t need you. Use to be a place for small communities to collaborate. Now its focusing all it’s efforts on being a proprietor and distributor of information. Any function those small communities serve is not important anymore because their user base is so large and entrenched the only thing that can sink them is gross mismanagement. As we saw with Twitter, even then, the road to broke is long and spiraling.
Sadly any substances related to showering are percieved as dangerous by the stereotypical reddit mod. :D
Lmao
Oof even all the way on Reddit they had to have felt that burn lmao
This is the best comment I read all year. Thank you for the laughs.
It’s all just bots masturbating other bots over there.
If you have ever posted something vaguely critical of Trump, Elmo or nazis in another sub, then you may well have bots automatically remove your posts and comments on other subs
It turns out that there are plenty of people who are perfectly OK with nazis across many subreddits out there
Reddit has gone to shit
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