Summary
- Volkswagen beat Tesla in European EV sales across the first three months of 2025, data shows.
- Registrations for VW EVs are up more than 150%, while Tesla lost huge ground.
- However, the Model Y and Model 3 remain Europe’s top two most-registered EVs.
If you don’t consider the impact that sending yet more manufacturing jobs to China will have in the long run and the fact that they have great value because what China is doing is called dumping and the goal is for them to have a monopoly so they can eventually increase prices without having any competitors.
If auto subsidies are dumping, the US has been dumping for ages.
Where did you see me mention that it’s ok for the US to do it?
So, since china is evil and wrong for making an affordable car when elon doesn’t want them to, who is allowed to make an affordable electric car?
Eh… What are you going on about? Dumping is wrong no matter who does it and there’s more than Tesla and Chinese offerings on the market.
Right after biden put in his trumpian tariffs against an automaker to protect musk.
If a country is dumping in your market and threatening your own industry you impose tariffs to compensate or you risk losing jobs and you’ll have a much bigger issue to deal with.
I hope you’re not the kind of person that complains about the middle class disappearing because right now you’re defending what made it disappear.
Also, welcome to the world, which isn’t just the US, this thread is about the European market where Biden didn’t impose tariffs.
Cheap cars aren’t what killed the middle class.
Nope. Just kicked open the door so trump could.
Opening the door to Chinese stuff and killing the manufacturing industry in North America and Europe is one of the main things that killed the middle class.
Trump didn’t impose tariffs on China in Europe either.
You have a serious reading comprehension issue, you should go back up the chain and reread everything but this time take the time to actually understand the message.
That ship has sailed, like 50 years ago
Yes, China dumps EVs on other markets.
But here are some extra insights to consider about the issue:
None of this is intended to condone China or any country dumping products, but as a warning about having overly simplified reactions to an issue without understanding the bigger picture.
Maybe the US should subsidize more renewable and battery manufacturing inside its borders.
https://energy.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/renewable/trump-administration-cancels-clean-energy-grants-as-it-prioritises-fossil-fuels/119687122
Oh.
Also slave labor.
“They’re much cheaper than comparable cars!”
People never think about where the savings come from, as long as they can buy stuff.
Seeing people who call themselves left wing defending globalism will always be funny to people like me who are left wing and were protesting against it back in the day.
On the other hand, the right in America is in the process of destroying globalism and is rightly mocked for it because they themselves are suffering the worst.
The issue is the way they’re trying to put an end to it. A plan like the government giving priority to local manufacturers and forcing international bidders to build factories in the country is one thing. Imposing tariffs without any plans to compensate locally is just plain dumb.
And yet they’re not just going about it the most boneheaded way they can think of, but have been actively killing off Biden era incentives to do what they claim they want.
If they actually cared about manufacturing locally, they would support those incentives, and support the infrastructure bill
Damn I have not heard about the Chinese enslaving black Africans to work at plantations yet.
They’re doing a lot of exploitation in Africa. Look it up if you truly haven’t heard