• spicehoarder@lemm.ee
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    15 hours ago

    The ones that can’t be reasoned with; They have to be stomped down. We tried to be nice to the maggots, but it didn’t work.

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      Yes. This is sadly the case. Nothing else will work. You have to yell at them and harass them. Call them stupid children. Stop doing any form of business with them. For fucks sake, if they are family members cut them out of your life and tell them exactly why you are doing it.

      This is the only way you could possibly reform them.

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      13 hours ago

      It’s sad to see how many times I’ve seen dehumanising being up voted recently.

      Human rights apply even to the worst criminals.

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        While this is true, I don’t think advocating of “punching fascists” is on a policy level, but rather an individual one.

        Why would ask a trans individual to respect the “human rights” of someone that doesn’t even see them as human?

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      15 hours ago

      Holy shit I thought Reddit leaking into the fediverse was a problem, I hadn’t yet considered 4chan

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      That some primo Trump speech right there my guy. How about we don’t stop of anyone and recognize bad social conditions lead people to make bad choices?

      Or you can just enjoy your time being the oppressor I guess.

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        14 hours ago

        I’m curious why you’re being down voted so hard.

        I’m also curious how I would “stomp down” my family member to not love everything trump does. We’re both Canadian and they haven’t been to the us in my life time…

        To me, there’s no talking to the extreme of either side. If a logical and factual conversation can’t change someone’s mind then I don’t know what will.

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          Because 4 year olds with cancer are being sent to concentration camps in the US. If you can politely talk to your family members and reason with them, this is always ideal. I get that it’s easy to be sucked down the alt-right pipeline. But if they’re literal nazis, far beyond reasoning with, I’m sorry. And if that hurts your feelings, you’re a nazi sympathizer.

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            Yea. Fuckers are saying “stomp them down seems harsh”, “maybe he doesn’t mean that”.

            STOMP THEM DOWN. Crush the movement like they are roaches. These people ARE NOT HUMAN! They think like aliens. They cheer as people are unconstitutionally dragged away to concentration camps … it is a one way trip.

            Destroy the Canadian “MAGA” movement now, or get prepped to literally fight them in the streets like the US is doing. Yes, people are physically stopping ICE.

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            Doesn’t hurt my feelings at all but just because they’re not following the laws doesn’t mean we can or should ignore the laws. I’m all for letting trump die in the same hole they’re sending the kids to. I also think he should have never been voted in and they need to arrest him months ago.

            The MAGA people in general are a problem but they’re not THE problem. If you think they all should be “Stomped down” you’re just as bad as they are, just on a different side.

            We need to support and educate people around this and as long as they’re not violent or breaking any laws then there’s nothing that we can really do. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and freedom. Just because you disagree with it, regardless of the side you’re on, doesn’t mean we can or should stomp them down.

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              Let me get this out of the way. We are 100% in agreement or at least 99%. But I don’t think you understand, a large portion of these people ARE the problem. These people couldn’t give a flying fuck about education, that’s why they voted for people to dismantle the education system.

              Look, if there still isn’t something you’re getting, it’s probably because you don’t have the bigger picture. The very same “innocent people” you talk about are cheering this on in the US. Don’t assume people’s intentions based on your own.

              You’re not talking to an extremist, but someone who has tried to love and educate these people for years. It’s just not working because they already know what they stand for.

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                Then how do you deal with it without becoming a problem yourself?

                The people who don’t care about education are still people and deserve all the same rights we have. You can’t just send them away.

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                  They will send you away, and then there’s nobody else to stop them.

                  So what goal do you want to achieve?

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                    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out– Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out– Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out– Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me–and there was no one left to speak for me.

                    -Martin Niemöller

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          Cut them out of your life until they change their ways.

          I have seen them cry about relatives doing it.