• Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
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    1. China is a superpower, nuke-holder
    2. China failed and still fails to condemn russia’s actions and still see russia as their partner.
    3. Communist countries stick together
    4. China is the only superpower not involved with the current war that remains aggressive towards NATO/US
    5. China has now completely took over Hong-Kong
    6. And they’re openly planning to do the same with Taiwan.

    All these 6 combined is why china is worthy being next to russia in this meme.

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          Good marketing, like “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea”

          And both in practice something totally else

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            Can you name a communist country that is radically different than china?

            Because I can name 20 different democratic countries that are radically different than north korea, in turn not changing the meaning of “democracy”.

            An outlier doesn’t mean the word changed its meaning.

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              It’s more like it’s impossible to name how China could be communist. They’d need a revolution or something

              I’d bet it’s not the first on the list to have it’s people take power

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                I’m saying that china + soviet union has defined and continue to define what communism is. It’s a word that’s tainted forever.

                Just like, for example, Christianity is defined by modern Christians.

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                  They define the cultural idea of communism

                  I hate being “that guy” tm but

                  The Soviet Union only briefly played with the idea of communism before committing to a single party socialist Republic. Modern day Russia is an autocratic dictatorship hiding in a Trenchcoat with “democracy” written on it.

                  China is again, a one party state which is, in truth, a Republic. China’s historical dances with “communism” are rather similar to that of the USSR wherein an offshoot of marxist-leninism was implemented, modified and then used, ultimately landing closer… Again to a socialist Republic and now being effectively an autocratic dictatorship hiding in a Trenchcoat… Etc. Etc.

                  Neither country in my opinion ever reached the illusory “true communism”. Maybe the west is right and it’s a failed ideology, maybe “it just hasn’t had the right leader yet” but ultimately, I believe most political ideologies have good bits that we can take notes on to improve the lives of others.

                  I apologize for any historical or political inaccuracies, wrote this with knowledge from the best of my memory while on the toilet at work

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                    Some good info in here.

                    From what you’ve said, it looks like communism has a historical tendency to become an authoritarian dictatorship, in turn redefining what ‘communism’ means to most people?

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                    I agree with the majority of what you are saying, but stating either the USSR or China had a foundation as a republic I would say is a gross mischaracterization, as supreme power within these states were held by the “communist” party, and not the people. Authoritarian regiems may play at calling themselves republics or democracies, but this should never be given credence.