• TwinkleToes@lemmy.caOP
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      29 days ago

      ? nobody mentioned Israel. Well - you did, but not sure why. I take that back - I have an idea why. I’m sure I’m going to regret responding to a 2d old burner account - but, here we are.

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          23 days ago

          right. Well - we’re not talking about Israel at all here, sorry. I’m sure there’s lots of space to discuss it not in an explicitly Ukraine themed thread.

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        30 days ago

        this is the proxy war

        IDK, really. True that NATO doesn’t want direct involvement and wants Ukraine to kick Putin’s ass. But it begs the question: is Russia a proxy for China or we just force the interpretation of the proxy war onto reality?

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          29 days ago

          It was a throwaway quip but Wikipedia says:

          a proxy war is an armed conflict where at least one of the belligerents is directed or supported by an external third-party power

          So the Ukraine war fits squarely in that definition. Other examples I found cited online were Korea, Vietnam, and the Soviets in Afghanistan - all of which have a major power as one of the direct belligerents