I had an account on lemmy.one and now the instance has been down for a day or two so I made this new account. I also heard other small instances are dead or disappeared.
So which ones do you think will actually stick around for a long time?
ALSO, does anyone know how to get my subscriptions from lemmy.one and import it here? TIA!
Not to sound too pessimistic, but we live in a time where we see Twitter collapsing, despite being one of those “too big to fail” websites. My bet is that none will stand the test of time, the web is ephemeral (and archive.org is an underappreciated wonder of the world). I would rather say that what you really need is a backup routine.
On one hand, a Sonic hacking forum I’ve been a part of since before its current forum software has been running the same database since 2003, on the other hand I fully acknowledge that it’s the exception and not the rule.
So have other forums. Maybe it’s just these newfangled social media websites that have longevity issues?
Because they crave more growth rather than prioritizing stability and being true to what they’re purpose of existence is. These social media forum try to be everything and that is their downfall. Being focused on what you were built for and being damn good at it is the real key to a platform’s long life.
Doomworld still going strong since the 90s as well.
I wish they stayed longer or given notice if they’re disappearing.
Yes indeed, giving proper notice seems like minimal etiquette. Then again, life happens. Admin may be caught in some tragedy making maintaining their lemmy instance not exactly a priority, or they may even be dead.
There is not much you can do to just migrate your account somewhere else, that’s a limitation of federation (compared to fully decentralized protocols, like Secure Scuttlebutt), but I’d wish Lemmy would implement ActivityPub’s following endpoint, so we can easily build scripts to backup the communities we’re in.
I guess instances run by SDF. They’ve been around since 1987 when they started with BBS. And since 1991 they are running the public access UNIX system. They also have Mastodon servers, Minecraft server and other stuff. These are their Lemmy instances:
lemmy.sdf.org - somewhere in US
lemmy.sdfeu.org - Falkenstein, Vogtland, Germany
lemmy.sdfjp.org - Tokyo, Japan
lemmy.sdfcn.org - Hong Kong
lemmy.sdfin.org - Mumbai, IndiaCool! I’ll sign upf or one.
Yeah. Good list.
Don’t think this is a strange phenomenon or that it’s permanent. I’ve seen Mastodon (and Pleroma and Misskey etc) instances get born and die regularly. This is because it’s easy to set up an instance but it’s also easy to fall in an economic problem or just give up.
Not everyone is ready to set up their own instance; it requires dedication and resources.
The fediverse really needs some kind of universal login and a way to easily migrate accounts between instances.
Not so much migrate as be able to use it from anywhere and have it replicated. Same with communities.
Give things a unique ID, and access it from anywhere, even if the original server goes away.
This kind of thing may not be possible with current ActivityPub protocols, but there’s always room for improvement.
The universal login is a very old suggestion but it’srealluy hard to pull off because that would have to be build into the core of the protocol. About the migration, that’s a Lemmy issue, not a general Fediverse one
Not really; login mechanisms are a separate thing. OAuth already exists. You only need Fediverse software to accept OAuth from anywhere and to provide it to others.
The migration part is IMO harder, but not necessarily by much. I don’t know of any fediverse software that’d allow it though.
What I mean with “universal login” is one account for multiple Fediverse services, I guess that wasn’t clear from my post. Yea, proper migration is hard and questionable if we should even allow it (could cause all kinds of issues, espwcially regarding account security) but Mastodon allows you to move your followers and add a redirect which is the most important part of the account and Lemmy should probably try to do something similar with ranks and communities.
The ones with the most porn
I wonder how donations for nsfw instances are going
People love to talk about porn. But do they pay for it in a context where it’s expected to be free?
Out of the loop, what happened to Lemmy.one?
Seems to be down, I haven’t heard any news but can no longer log in
Website seems to still exist, maybe they’re doing some involved equipment upgrade.
Some people are speculating a database error, because apparently 0.18.3 requires a database migration to work, here’s the other post I just saw about this: https://lemdit.com/post/262746
I think probably this is it. Db upgrades are scary as hell.
That makes sense, maybe there’s hope for it.
how to get my subscriptions from lemmy.one and import it here?
Unfortunately there is no way to do that yet, but I remembered that there is an unofficial tool that let you transfer your subscriptions like you said
Edit: There isand open issue that might talking about it: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/1985
I’ll throw my tool out there as well: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim
Unfortunately, you need access to the old server to download the list of communities and blocks - but that’s true of all tools that do this.
https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate
Just used this the other day, worked like a charm (albeit a bit slow if I’m honest)
I found another tool: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim, from: https://lemmy.world/comment/857727, p.s. I haven’t tried it
How do I install this on Windows? I don’t know how to code. 😭
Look into the WSL
use https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim , easier
Here’s a thread where I helped someone else with the process on windows: https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/1420339
The steps are:
- Set up the python code
- Go to https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate/releases/tag/v1.1.0
- Download the zip file
- Extract the zip file, to make a folder somewhere on your system called lemmy_migrate-1.1.0. Remember where this folder is
- Inside the folder you will find a file called
config.ini. Use notepad to edit the file to have your server URL and login credentials.
- Set up the python interpreter
- Install python from https://www.python.org/downloads/
- Open powershell
- install the python package requests by pasting the following command into powershell:
py -m pip install --user requests
- Use the python interpreter to interpret your python
- first make sure powershell is looking at the correct folder. One way to do this is to open the lemmy_migrate-1.1.0 folder in windows explorer. right click on the box that shows you the path, and copy the text. then write
cd <pasted path>in powershell. This path will very likely be something likeC:\\Users\Wu9fee\Downloads\lemmy_migrate-1.1.0. If you don’t want to copy and paste the path from explorer, you can just docd Downloadsthencd lemmy_migrate-1.1.0 - Finaly, you can run the python command with
py lemmy-migrate.py -c config.ini
- first make sure powershell is looking at the correct folder. One way to do this is to open the lemmy_migrate-1.1.0 folder in windows explorer. right click on the box that shows you the path, and copy the text. then write
Let me know if you run into any problems.
If you can pull this off, you can officially say you know how to code.
Thanks for the tutorial! I might try but it looks hard. 🤔
It’s not too bad, it seems more difficult because I added all the steps. Changing the folder PowerShell is looking at is easy to do, but hard to explain.
- Set up the python code
Seems like this would be a great feature for the myriad of Lemmy mobile apps… nightly backups of your Lemmy account settings and a button to recreate it on a new instance
ALSO, does anyone know how to get my subscriptions from lemmy.one and import it here? TIA!
The other instance has to be up. If it’s permanently down, there’s nothing I can do.
- Login to https://natoboram.github.io/Leanish/lemmy.one/login
- Export your user in https://natoboram.github.io/Leanish/lemmy.one/settings
- Login to https://natoboram.github.io/Leanish/lemmy.ca/login
- Import your old user in https://natoboram.github.io/Leanish/lemmy.ca/settings
- Click on the big button
It will search for the subscribed communities, attempt to retrieve them and attempt to subscribe. Refresh the page between tries. Do not share your exported user; it contains your email.
Leanish is very much alpha and doesn’t have all features. There’s tons of missing features, many of them listed in the GitHub issues.
Lemmy.world
.world gang
I’d like to say lemmy.world, but a lot of communities you’d think would be quite active are actually not so.
That’s the thing about the fediverse, you need to be the change you want to see. Post a lot and contribute.
I will try and post something new every day to help keep new content flowing in. Can’t expect everyone else to just keep us entertained. :)
You’re right, it at the same time a small number of people trying to post regularly, regardless of whether they’ve got something that really needs posting, doesn’t tend to provide high-quality content - and I fear that’s what we’re seeing a lot on Lemmy right now.
Yeah I have thought about that, but I think it’s better to have a lot of content than no content. Of course the optimal would be if everyone posted quality content but maybe it’s more important to just have new content now they Lemmy is growing.
I think if Lemmy becomes very big, there will be enough users that people who want a bit higher quality can just skip the meme communities and all that and opt for better quality communities.
Gotta give it time. Lemmy in general only took off like 6 weeks ago
Yeah I think this one will last forever. Everyone is on it and they have lots of supporters.
I ain’t got nothin better to do so might as well run a server forever
I have hosted a lot of my own services for a couple of years and plan to continue hosting my instance(endlesstalk.org) indefinitely, unless something very major happens.
As others have mentioned I think multiple admins and backups(hard to verify though) are a good sign, but its only indications and you can’t really be sure, if a instance will be there forever. I think there needs to be an easy way to migrate accounts and then the instances going down hopefully gives a notice, so you can move your account.
Gonna be difficult to recover accounts from instance going down without a notice I think. You could regularly take a backup of your account, but that is tedious and you will still lose some data.
Can you upload your comment history to a new instance? Does that question even make sense? I’m not sure what backing up means, I guess. Just an archive?
There are tools that can backup and migrate communities, blocks and settings like lasim for a user. So you can migrate between instances.
As far as I know, there aren’t any tools that can migrate comment history and I think anything that could do that, would need to be backed into lemmy itself(Which it isn’t currently).
I’m pretty happy with kbin.social. It’s a nice place, with several devs actively looking at making the experience better, it just takes a while being an open source project and all
No proper mobile support kills it for me
There’s a mobile app in the works, Artemis. Things will be a bit better when the site gets official API support and more services can connect to it
Same with aussie.zone and other country spesifc instances
Also aussie.zone, checking in
Aussie.zoners, mount up.
Aussie.zone here, mount up
As long as lemmy remains popular there will be new servers/instances popping up. I found my start on lemmy quite rocky with servers vanishing sometimes with notice and then others just vanishing without notice, Anyway I quickly adapted and began to keep a list of communities I like to frequent while this list is still small I’m sure by the time it starts to become an issue there will be tools that make it a non issue.
I’ve started becoming more nomad in my use of lemmy compared to somewhere like reddit where I had just one account for eight years I just open a new account with the knowledge that it’s not permanent it doesn’t belong to me and there will be a time when I need to move on.
Mine will, planning to support for quite some time. So if you’re looking for a new one, join lemmings.world!
Nice!
