Such an unbelievably talented and driven group of people. Having a full blown version of Fedora on Apple silicon would probably convince me to buy a macbook for my next laptop.
Buy a framework laptop instead!
Kinda hard to buy a Framework when they don’t sell to your country! Framework laptops are only available in a handful of areas, whereas Macbooks are sold in almost every country on Earth.
after using the m1 air, I’m sold on arm
it doesn’t have fans so no complaints of noise (my old laptop gave me ptsd of fan noise and I’ve also heard framework 12th having fan noise as it has a single fan coupled with a p-series processor)I’d love to see amd/intel make an arm chip as microsoft also seems to pick-up the windows on arm thing
I haven’t tried the amd mainboard yet but I have the 12th Gen Intel framework and the fan is capable of running very loud if you want to take maximum advantage of the processor performance.
Turning off turbo, running thermald etc can give you a more comfortable and quiet experience and longer battery runtime if you are prepared to give up that peak performance which is mostly not required. PC hardware sells on unsustainable peak performance tests thanks to the focus of reviewers on those numbers instead of the overall experience.
The Intel cpu gives much worse performance per watt than the m1 but the system it is in is also much easier to repair and upgrade and has much more mature open source support. It is a tradeoff.
I owned and enjoyed using an intel MacBook when they were serviceable and upgradeable. It had a long and productive life and was easily one of the best made laptops available in its time for the money. Framework might not be offering revolutionary CPUs but they make Apple’s business of selling disposable closed hardware look extremely dated. I would rather take a small performance hit until the rest of the industry catches up than spend any more of my time and money with Apple. Apple have more engineering talent and money than just about anyone which could be used to make ground breaking sustainable, repairable, open hardware and they always choose to go the other way.
I have to respect the Asahi devs for attempting to liberate apple hardware. Making systems more free is never a bad thing. It is unfortunate that systems even need to be liberated.
Framework is cool, but Apple Silicon is still a pretty enticing concept if you want a silent system! I have an M1 Mac Mini that doesnt make a peep of noise even when its churning out tests and compiling, but my work laptop costs 2x the price, came out the same year, and struggles in the same tasks.
Some of it is Windows and its shite scheduler. Some of it is ARM. One day RISC-V will be at the same level and we won’t have to pick :)
Note that the people behind the Asahi don’t yet recommend getting a MacBook for the sole reason of running Asahi on it.
For those not familiar with what Asahi is:
Asahi Linux is a project and community with the goal of porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs, starting with the 2020 M1 Mac Mini, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro.
Slightly off topic but is there a smart person out there that can explain why having dark mode on makes this website think I’m from “hacker news” and block me (I didn’t even know what hacker news was before today). I’m not a web developer and just genuinely curious how dark mode users get lumped together with an entire website I’ve never heard of before.
I don’t think it’s triggered by having dark mode on. I have dark mode on and I’m not seeing it.
I’d agree but the message on the website specifies it’s triggered by hacker news AND dark mode. I’m on iOS with the Noir extension for my browser so perhaps whatever dark mode method you’re using isn’t detected the same way.
Do you have an ad blocker? I got the same message.
I have AdGuard premium but it’s definitely caused by Noir. I can toggle it on and off while on the website and it changes from warning me about hacker news to the actual website in real time.
Chromium’s dark theme triggers it, dark reader on Firefox doesn’t.
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For comparison I got no such pop up.
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Well, that’s a rant and a half. I’ve got a similar setup and don’t see the same message, but that’s still weird.
The good news is you don’t actually have to know about Asahi, they’re upsteaming all their work. If it’s useful to you, you’ll end up using it without even knowing
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Who knows what they are using to make that determination. Obviously you need some tweaking. It sounds like you’re reacting somewhat poorly though. Life goes on. There’s other ways that you can see the site if you really want to. Think about it from their perspective.
It uses the :visited css psuedotag to display the message based on your browser history.
I got the same popup. Blocks the article, no way to get past it to read it. And no, I don’t read Hacker News nor did I follow a link from them. Fuck Asahi. They can pull their heads out of their asses and then maybe I’ll regain some interest in their shit… but I doubt it. They’ve just demonstrated sheer technical incompetence as well as childish pettiness. Definitely not anyone worthy of being relied on.
Asahi: Successfully reverse engineers undocumented silicon and releases first of its kind firmware upstream where possible. You: (of the Asahi devs) “demonstrated sheer technical incompetence.”
Asahi devs: receive abuse, harassment and discrimination from a website, often personally directed at minority team members. Ask the websites mods to do something about it, get ignored. Asahi devs: Block traffic from said website (and some collateral traffic) to do what they can to protect their team from harassment. You: “childish pettiness … not worthy of being relied on”
Maaaateee… you got blocked from looking at a website, it’s at most a mild inconvenience to you. Maybe recalibrate your outrage. I’m sure someone of your technical competence can find a way to circumvent the pop up, if you care even a little.
I already said I didn’t care.
Just tried clicking that link, and got a huge pop up refusing me access to the site, and accusing me from being from a site called Hacker News (???).
According to the text in the screenshot you’ve posted, there is no referrer header, so perhaps you’re using some privacy extension that strips referrers.
Looks like uBlock Origin triggers it. That’s annoying, but whitelisting the site fixed it.
Yeah, that’s not happening. I only whitelist sites I trust, and that little pop-up doesn’t engender trust.
Fair enough.
You can also open developer tools and just delete the message elements, but you’d have to still be interested in what they’re saying.
It pretty much screams “Don’t trust!”
Blocking access from everyone that wants to protect their privacy is not an acceptable policy.
Whatever Red Hat is doing with Enterprise Linux has luckily no direct effect on Fedora which in itself is a great distribution, so this is a good step.
This is super cool! Been following these guys for a while.
Have the speaker issues been fixed yet? That’s the one thing holding me back from permanently switching. I would also prefer Debian over Arch or Fedora.
Nope, no speakers yet
I can’t say I am suprised but I sure am glad that the Asahi SIG has been so successful.
Kudos to everyone involved!
Never thought I would say this but my next one gonna be apple silicon
Such a solution is great because my girlfriend has a 11 years old MacBook pro and I’m sure Apple will find a way to render it obsolete
Asahi Linux is specifically built to run on Apple Silicon. It won’t be compatible with an 11yo MBP.
It will be in 11 years
Regular Fedora runs on that and has since this laptop came out.
It’s a regular x86-64 computer
Where M2 Pro support :(
Where your monetary contribution?
Being developed, ask Apple to release their code or documentation to make it faster
